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Taking a job like this helps build his resume to one day be a head coach, either in collage or the NFL. For a young coach, this would be the perfect time for him to show others how good he can be. Lots more upside in taking the job than negatives if he does poorly.
 

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Kind of wild that he climbed from college position coach to NFL OC in 3 years at under 35 years old. Can't imagine that has been done many times. Was hoping he would eventually find his way back to Ames but that seems unlikely at this point.
 

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Once you are in the NFL you are in the NFL, all they do is recycle.
Coaches move back and forth all the time. They tend to stay at the level they enjoying coaching at the best. What the NFL does is take talented coaches at a younger age and give them a shot to be successful, instead of waiting around for years, working your way up like happens in college.
Lots of college coaches want to experience both to determine which level they like best, nothing wrong with that. If Nate goes there and is horrible, its not like he is never going to get a another opportunity and his coaching career is over.
 

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Kind of wild that he climbed from college position coach to NFL OC in 3 years at under 35 years old. Can't imagine that has been done many times. Was hoping he would eventually find his way back to Ames but that seems unlikely at this point.
If they don’t put rules on transfers there will be many more ncaa coaches jumping to the NFL. Who wants to recruit 365 days a year?
 

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Taking a job like this helps build his resume to one day be a head coach, either in collage or the NFL. For a young coach, this would be the perfect time for him to show others how good he can be. Lots more upside in taking the job than negatives if he does poorly.
Brian Ferentz says hello...;)o_O:cool:
 
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HC jobs are interesting. The guy east of us was in the NFL and decided he liked college. He has done ok there over the last 20 some years. Then while would a guy who has won 5-7 super bowls, decide to coach college ball? In 10 years Nate might be a big time coach at ISU.
 

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Once you are in the NFL you are in the NFL, all they do is recycle.
Yep, it's like having a tenured position. You don't have to recruit, actually have an off-season, get paid the same as a college coach, or more, and will pretty much always be able to get a job. And you can just coach, leave the roster building to the GM and the head coach.
 
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Ferentz was doing a good job at coaching the lineman, his dad put him in a horrible position by moving him to OC, when he had never worked with QB's and RB's his entire career. A move like that would have never happened if he was not KF son.
I bet it's more common than you think that position coaches change the position the coach, and people coach positions they've never played. A guy may gain notoriety as being a specialist at coaching certain positions, but early in a career people move around a lot. No different than any other job.
 
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I bet it's more common than you think that position coaches change the position the coach, and people coach positions they've never played. A guy may gain notoriety as being a specialist at coaching certain positions, but early in a career people move around a lot. No different than any other job.
Without a doubt, but BF had never ran an offense, was a lineman to TE coach in the NFL back to lineman and then an OC. That is one heck of a jump for any coach. It would be like NS getting hired to coach the offense lineman after playing QB and coaching RB's.
 
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Without a doubt, but BF had never ran an offense, was a lineman to TE coach in the NFL back to lineman and then an OC. That is one heck of a jump for any coach. It would be like NS getting hired to coach the offense lineman after playing QB and coaching RB's.
Oh yeah. I wasn't speaking specifically to BF's situation, just saying in general it's common for coaches to hold a lot of different roles.

I suspect KF and their whole program is awfully insulated. Most staffs will take the off-season to collaborate with others. I have zero knowledge or evidence, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least for Kirk to believe that he knows what he's doing and doesn't think it's necessary to look outside the program for insight. They've gone through 4 OCs and their offense doesn't really seem to change. And their defense hasn't changed at all.
 

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Oh yeah. I wasn't speaking specifically to BF's situation, just saying in general it's common for coaches to hold a lot of different roles.

I suspect KF and their whole program is awfully insulated. Most staffs will take the off-season to collaborate with others. I have zero knowledge or evidence, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least for Kirk to believe that he knows what he's doing and doesn't think it's necessary to look outside the program for insight. They've gone through 4 OCs and their offense doesn't really seem to change. And their defense hasn't changed at all.
KF has his fingers deep in the offense without a doubt, he has been very successful and will be reluctant to change, like most older coaches. Its why their fan base is getting tired of the same old thing.
Coaching is a very small fraternity, and its why coaches move back and forth between jobs, its easier to hire someone you know and have worked with as opposed to letting with a new guy.