Rule Change to Slow down Tempo

swarthmoreCY

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Pssst.... Have you seen our new OCs offense?
No one will have until September.
Nevertheless, Mangino never played at a pace faster than ISU did last year, which again, was not fast enough to significantly (or at all) negate a "bluebloods" depth advantage. You have to play very, very fast to do that. Also, going fast is not a "little guy" with a lack of depth thing. In Mangino's last season at KU, A$M, UT, and OU led the Big 12 in plays per game (along with TT).

This is an offense vs defense issue, not a depth (bluebloods vs non-bluebloods) issue. The main advantage to going so fast is the defense is in chaos mode and not in position or knowing what hit them. That drives defensive guys like Saban and Bielema nuts.
 

VTXCyRyD

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They should probably change the rules about catching a short field goal attempt and running it back for a touchdown too.
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wartknight

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This is for TV. No time to show as many replays as they want so something has to change.
 

CyCy

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What percentage of plays are run with more than 29 seconds left on the play clock. My guess would be very few.
 

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I don't think the rule will pass because coaches at the non-blueblood schools are sick of them and will band together to make sure it fails.
 

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Be cool if hockey and basketball would institute similar rules. On change of posession, the offense has to wait for the defense to get back and set before they can cross the midpoint line.

The TV Brass have to be thrilled about this move.

:jimlad:??? That would be the worst rule ever invented if they did that in basketball.
 

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What percentage of plays are run with more than 29 seconds left on the play clock. My guess would be very few.

I agree it is probably very few but defenses aren't trying to substitute now. If they do try to substitute, the offenses would snap it quicker to catch them with either too many or too few players.
 

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If a team subs you are already allowed to match up by rule. If they do this they should stop the game clock for the 10 seconds. They also should get a flag thrown if they have an injured player in the last 2 mins of a game. Just crazy how a few coaches want to change the rule because they don't like the way the game has changed.
 

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I don't mind the rule change all that much. It isn't going to slow the game down THAT much but it will allow defenses to take a breath or two between plays.

IIRC, the rule on first down plays is that the offense cannot snap the ball until after the chains have been set. I have seen many many many times where the oldies moving the chains are trying to get set and the QB gets the snap. The ref just gets the F out the the way and is sometimes not even in position himself to properly see the play.

If there were minor tweaks, like making sure the chains were set, it would allow a second or two for the defense to catch its breath between plays while not truly messing with the game. Just a thought.
 

cykadelic2

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I don't mind the rule change all that much. It isn't going to slow the game down THAT much but it will allow defenses to take a breath or two between plays.

IIRC, the rule on first down plays is that the offense cannot snap the ball until after the chains have been set. I have seen many many many times where the oldies moving the chains are trying to get set and the QB gets the snap. The ref just gets the F out the the way and is sometimes not even in position himself to properly see the play.

If there were minor tweaks, like making sure the chains were set, it would allow a second or two for the defense to catch its breath between plays while not truly messing with the game. Just a thought.

Slowing down tempo is not the primary intent of this rule change by the likes of Saban, it is to increase the ability to do situational substitutions (e.g. short yardage packages) and substitute for fatigued players.

The rule change is a BS attempt by the likes of Saban and Beilema in response to the uptempo Auburn and A&M offenses now sprouting up in the SEC.
 

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Slowing down tempo is not the primary intent of this rule change by the likes of Saban, it is to increase the ability to do situational substitutions (e.g. short yardage packages) and substitute for fatigued players.

The rule change is a BS attempt by the likes of Saban and Beilema in response to the uptempo Auburn and A&M offenses now sprouting up in the SEC.

I understand it is to substitute more often and to keep guys fresh (the way you do that is to slow the game down some). I know that Saban and Beilema are finally getting a taste of what the Big XII has been doing for years and it isn't sitting well with the big dogs. But, why is it that offenses in the last decade have been awarded every advantage over the defense (like targeting, increased roughing the passer rules, ejections, etc)?
Of course it is being looked at now that the blue bloods are on board. It's the same with politics. Nobody cares if I (ISU) am not happy, but let a billionaire (ALABAMA) have the same complaint and something will certainly get done about it. It's just the way things work.
 

cykadelic2

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I understand it is to substitute more often and to keep guys fresh (the way you do that is to slow the game down some). I know that Saban and Beilema are finally getting a taste of what the Big XII has been doing for years and it isn't sitting well with the big dogs. But, why is it that offenses in the last decade have been awarded every advantage over the defense (like targeting, increased roughing the passer rules, ejections, etc)?
Of course it is being looked at now that the blue bloods are on board. It's the same with politics. Nobody cares if I (ISU) am not happy, but let a billionaire (ALABAMA) have the same complaint and something will certainly get done about it. It's just the way things work.

Those rules were truly for player safety, not to provide advantages to the offense.

This proposed new rule is being pushed under the ruse of "player safety" which it is not. It is a rule being pushed by those like Saban who want to stifle no-huddle offenses than can prevent defensive substitutions.
 

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