Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

AuH2O

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This is unfortunately correct. This is 100% about money. I'd prefer the top 64-96 schools just break away and collectively bargain a single TV deal so everything in the sport could be about rivalries and short trips for athletes. The money machine demands otherwise.

Any addition has to add $55M-$60M+ per addition, otherwise it just doesn't make any sense.
Disagree. A media company needs inventory. And think about it, if the average payout is 55 mil, that means half the teams are worth less than that.
What this may enable us conferences to boot teams that don’t bring value. The way media is going a team like Rutgers is absolutely **** worthless.

And this probably is as much why UT and OU are bolting. Big 12 has a bunch of teams drawing in the 40-50k range with small stadiums and small enrollments.

In the future all that matters is what fanbases will put forth effort and dollars to watch their teams. Passive viewing is not going to matter in the future.

While it’s not perfect, the only decent proxy we have to estimate value in a future as media changes is attendance.
 

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I'm genuinely surprised at how many on here would choose joing the Big 10 as their first choice.
This should always be first choice. If there are actually any choices ISU gets to make. Big money conference? Natural rivals? I’d pick B10 over anything anytime. B12 is not viable. It never was long term. Even the B8 was in trouble. This implosion has been in the works for literally decades.
 

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Do they though? At this point, who cares about the why? It's like a spouse who decides to cheat repeatedly. At some point, the 'why' just doesn't matter and you're better off planning for your future than constantly asking why.

Personally, I think the best scenario is for all the schools to stay put. OU and Texas have an easy path to the playoff. Go to the SEC, that path gets harder. If you want to stay relevant at a high level, winning lots of games will help you do that.

Additionally, is there something the current Big 12 can offer to keep them in the conference? Maybe that's what OU and Texas want, some kind of change to the conference so they are using the SEC as a prop to scare the rest of the Big 12.
 

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Do they though? At this point, who cares about the why? It's like a spouse who decides to cheat repeatedly. At some point, the 'why' just doesn't matter and you're better off planning for your future than constantly asking why.

The cows are on their 3 coach since they ran Mack Brown out of town. They think they are elite, but they are dysfunctional. They are flooded with cash, expectations, and donors that need high touch.

How can it be their fault they aren't dominating the Big 12?? How could aTm become the dominate school in the state?? Where's Earl Christian Campbell when you need him?!?

Must be those 8 other schools bringing the cows down. Meh.
 

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Personally, I think the best scenario is for all the schools to stay put. OU and Texas have an easy path to the playoff. Go to the SEC, that path gets harder. If you want to stay relevant at a high level, winning lots of games will help you do that.

Additionally, is there something the current Big 12 can offer to keep them in the conference? Maybe that's what OU and Texas want, some kind of change to the conference so they are using the SEC as a prop to scare the rest of the Big 12.

Pretty sure it is over at this point. If they've been planning and preparing for 6 months to a year, this isn't a play to get more $ from the Big 12.
 

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It's a stable league that cares about academics and would afford ISU the opportunity for rivalry games against Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, as well as Iowa becoming a conference game.
The BIG is the best option, no doubt. However, Iowa being a conference game is not a plus to me. I already am annoyed with dealing with those A-holes as much as I do. Being in their league will make them even worse. Not looking forward to that if it happens.
 

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TCU and Baylor to the PAC would certainly throw a wrench in things
Both are private religious schools which in the past the Pac 12 has shied away from. Not sure how either would fit into the culture of those schools.
Every school has to be talking to other leagues, If we learned anything from the last go around its better to proactive and find a spot then be left out.
The problem for ISU is the best choice, the Big 10 may also be the one that waits the longest to make a decision. We do not want to have KSU, OSU TT join the Pac 12 while we wait for an answer from the Big 10.
 

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Pretty sure it is over at this point. If they've been planning and preparing for 6 months to a year, this isn't a play to get more $ from the Big 12.

Very true, hard to argue with that line of thought.
 

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The BIG is the best option, no doubt. However, Iowa being a conference game is not a plus to me. I already am annoyed with dealing with those A-holes as much as I do. Being in their league will make them even worse. Not looking forward to that if it happens.
Being annoyed is a personal choice. I'll take the money, stability, and moped length rides to most of our opponents.
 
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The BIG is the best option, no doubt. However, Iowa being a conference game is not a plus to me. I already am annoyed with dealing with those A-holes as much as I do. Being in their league will make them even worse. Not looking forward to that if it happens.
Would be annoying but it is then up to ISU to step up and start beating them more on a consistent basis.