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KidSilverhair

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Hell, take ‘em all. Become the Monster (TM) Ultimate Big XII Conference, 68 schools from coast to coast, with our entire basketball season being one big NCAA play-in tournament and our football season running from March to December! Fun for all! Rivalry games once every decade! We’ll be the powerfulest of Power conferences!
 

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SEC won't let the bigger brands (UNC and Virginia) get to the Big Ten if full on poaching occurs.
Each school is going to decide which conference it wants to move it if the ACC dissolves, if they are offered by both. Have to believe that both UNC and UVA see the B10 as closer to their academic mission than the SEC. Both schools are BB schools first, and football schools second, which also aligns with the B10 better. More BB schools in the B10 than there are in the SEC. Also get them to playing Maryland again.
 

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Why do you think that? Theyre not good enough on their own, but as a 4th wheel theyre a decent fit culturally.
Because they simply aren’t good enough for the SEC so there is no incentive for the conference to add them. I would be shocked if the SEC added more than two teams and depending on the timing they might not even add any.
 

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Duke seems like the kind of place that would rather go independent than join a lowly conference like the Big 12 because of the academic angle.
 

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It would be disappointment if at the end of all of this the Big 12 got Pitt, Louisville, Duke, and Syracuse, imo.
Then be prepared to be disappointed, because unless no one wants FSU or Clemson, the Pitt and Louisville types of schools are what are going to be setting their when the B12 starts to choose. Why would the UNC and UVA's of the conference move to the B12 when they could get more money from the B10 or SEC?
 

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Then be prepared to be disappointed, because unless no one wants FSU or Clemson, the Pitt and Louisville types of schools are what are going to be setting their when the B12 starts to choose. Why would the UNC and UVA's of the conference move to the B12 when they could get more money from the B10 or SEC?
I agree with OP because I would want NCST and VT first out of those “middle teams”. I assume the top 4 schools in the ACC are P2 bound.

These are my assumptions on the media mentioned “group of 7”:
- UNC (B1G)
- UVA (B1G)
- VT (XII)
- Clemson (SEC)
- NCST (XII)
- FSU (SEC)
- Miami (B1G)
 

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I agree with OP because I would want NCST and VT first out of those “middle teams”. I assume the top 4 schools in the ACC are P2 bound.

These are my assumptions on the media mentioned “group of 7”:
- UNC (B1G)
- UVA (B1G)
- VT (XII)
- Clemson (SEC)
- NCST (XII)
- FSU (SEC)
- Miami (B1G)

Not questioning you at all...just a comment/thought...I just can't see why the Big 10 would want Miami? I know it is in Florida...but it seems like that it is unnecessary.
 

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I agree with OP because I would want NCST and VT first out of those “middle teams”. I assume the top 4 schools in the ACC are P2 bound.

These are my assumptions on the media mentioned “group of 7”:
- UNC (B1G)
- UVA (B1G)
- VT (XII)
- Clemson (SEC)
- NCST (XII)
- FSU (SEC)
- Miami (B1G)
I wonder if the SEC loses out on UNC and UVA that they will not then offer UNST and VT as a way to get into those markets and states. I could see the B10 also going after a school like Georgia Tech.
 

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Not questioning you at all...just a comment/thought...I just can't see why the Big 10 would want Miami? I know it is in Florida...but it seems like that it is unnecessary.
I guess I’m making an assumption there. My gut tells me that Miami would be willing to take partial share to get there or the SEC. There’s some rivalry potential with Nebraska, Penn State, maybe Ohio State. Basketball is decent. Geographically it’s an outlier, but it’s in a city with a lot of northern transplants.
 
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I wonder if the SEC loses out on UNC and UVA that they will not then offer UNST and VT as a way to get into those markets and states. I could see the B10 also going after a school like Georgia Tech.
I wonder about NCST and VT to the SEC as well. NCST is about to benefit from a $1B sports/entertainment complex upgrade from the Carolina Hurricanes near their football stadium.

That said, I don’t think the SEC has to expand. I see their members wanting the size of their pie to grow. They will only expand if they start to lose out on CFP spots to a massive B1G.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Because they simply aren’t good enough for the SEC so there is no incentive for the conference to add them. I would be shocked if the SEC added more than two teams and depending on the timing they might not even add any.
V Tech is honestly borderline any P4 conference. Their ratings and viewership and usually on the low end.
 
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Then be prepared to be disappointed, because unless no one wants FSU or Clemson, the Pitt and Louisville types of schools are what are going to be setting their when the B12 starts to choose. Why would the UNC and UVA's of the conference move to the B12 when they could get more money from the B10 or SEC?
UNC and UVA are never joining the Big 12.
 

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Not questioning you at all...just a comment/thought...I just can't see why the Big 10 would want Miami? I know it is in Florida...but it seems like that it is unnecessary.
It has always seemed like the UNC and UVA were the two schools other than ND that would fit well into the B10. I could see them taking those two then trying once again to convince ND to join and if they did go after either G. Tech or Miami as the fourth school in the group.
 
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Maybe I am too much of a basic math / round numbers guy, but I don't see the B1G staying at 18 (vs 20 or 24). And I don't see the SEC adding only to 18 and not 20 - it will be 4 or nothing.

So ACC will be either 2 or 6 going to P2. If just 2, they may live on similar to Big12. But I don't see it - I think it will be 6 and leftovers join Big12.
 

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I see Stanford to the B1G before GT. I can’t emphasize enough how much of a non-factor GT is the sphere of sports fandom down here

Edit: and I think this is predicated on a carrot for Notre Dame
 
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I see Stanford to the B1G before GT. I can’t emphasize enough how much of a non-factor GT is the sphere of sports fandom down here

Edit: and I think this is predicated on a carrot for Notre Dame
Adding schools like Georgia Tech or Miami gets those states with good populations into the B10. They league already has California, adding Stanford does nothing for the the league. Both GT #33 and Miami #67 are very good academics, not Stanford #3 level, but very still very well regarded.

 

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Adding schools like Georgia Tech or Miami gets those states with good populations into the B10. They league already has California, adding Stanford does nothing for the the league. Both GT #33 and Miami #67 are very good academics, not Stanford #3 level, but very still very well regarded.

Academically, I think Duke would have to be on the table too.

I don’t think Stanford elevates football at all, but if adding them gets you ND then I think B1G does that.

From a XII perspective, do you think Miami and GT would join us if offered?
 
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Academically, I think Duke would have to be on the table too.

I don’t think Stanford elevates football at all, but if adding them gets you ND then I think B1G does that.

From a XII perspective, do you think Miami and GT would join us if offered?
I think any school not offered by either the B10 or SEC will jump at the chance to join the B12, because not doing so destroys their athletic departments money wise. Washington St and Oregon St did not get an invite, and now look at them, do you think the current ACC teams will not see their plight and do everything they can to avoid it, when the ACC goes up in smoke.
I can see a school like Duke either going to the B12 or the Big East for BB.
 
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I see Stanford to the B1G before GT. I can’t emphasize enough how much of a non-factor GT is the sphere of sports fandom down here

Edit: and I think this is predicated on a carrot for Notre Dame
If B1G got ND by adding Stanford... would they stop there at 20, or would they go get 4 more teams? People talk like UNC and UVa are big wants for the B1G, would they leave those behind? Or would they get them too, and then 2 of FSU/Clem/Miami?

IDK. I still think TV is moving all this around, and they are just consolidating the biggest brands in P2. ND, Clemson, FSU, Miami are the big 4 remaining. It gets REAL slim after that. VT is way down the list, and Standford and LV are even farther down after that.