Postgame video: T.J. Otzelberger's postgame press conference after loss to BYU

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TJ mentions there was a 15 minute stretch where we let poor offense impact what we did on defense. My guess is he is talking about the 17-2 run we gave up to end the half and the start of the second half.

My question for TJ is: why did he wait until the 17-2 run and 1 minute remaining in the first half to finally call a timeout?

This is now a trend that shows his philosophy is that he would rather preserve his 1st half timeout for the final minute of the half to maximize possessions over stopping the bleeding and letting a hole be dug.

It’s the very opposite of what good coaches do. Scott Drew, Bill Self, the list goes on of coaches calling TOs in the first half when we start to pull away. TJ seems to want to hold onto his to strategize for 60 seconds of basketball
 

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TJ mentions there was a 15 minute stretch where we let poor offense impact what we did on defense. My guess is he is talking about the 17-2 run we gave up to end the half and the start of the second half.

My question for TJ is: why did he wait until the 17-2 run and 1 minute remaining in the first half to finally call a timeout?

This is now a trend that shows his philosophy is that he would rather preserve his 1st half timeout for the final minute of the half to maximize possessions over stopping the bleeding and letting a hole be dug.

It’s the very opposite of what good coaches do. Scott Drew, Bill Self, the list goes on of coaches calling TOs in the first half when we start to pull away. TJ seems to want to hold onto his to strategize for 60 seconds of basketball

Were there not several TV time outs in there?
 
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There were a few points where a timeout seemed warranted. I’m not sure what’s so wrong about saying that.

I guess he saved the timeouts for the end of game and that worked ******* great.

No, he tends to dig in and take too long.

My question is also valid: were there TV time outs or was it just 15 straigh minutes?
 

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No, he tends to dig in and take too long.

My question is also valid: were there TV time outs or was it just 15 straigh minutes?

Did you watch the game?
 

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There were a few points where a timeout seemed warranted. I’m not sure what’s so wrong about saying that.

I guess he saved the timeouts for the end of game and that worked ******* great.

We called a timeout at the end of the 4th quarter to get Jefferson the near and-1 layup, where he instead made two FTs to tie. It's ok to be upset about the result of the game, but at least be factual in your complaints. They called timeout three times, it worked once. Calling a timeout to stop a run isn't guaranteed to work just like calling a timeout to set up a play isn't guaranteed to work. You can argue for or against either process, but don't just play the results.
 

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Did you watch the game?

Yes and I can't remember is there were TV time outs during the stretch which is why I'm asking.

I would guess there was.
 

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Overall it ended up being an exciting game and proud of how we fought back to make it close.

But it the end, last night was a microcosm of the last 14 games where we are 7-7.
  1. Felt like the deficit was created by a lack of effort on defense and an offense where we get intimidated in the paint against length. I realize the double teaming defense creates turnovers, but feel we rely on it too much vs. solid on ball defense by the guards.
  2. At the end of the game and overtimes, it came down to execution in key offensive possessions. Way too many instances of having to settle for bad shots or dribbling in a crowd. Feel like this comes down to our offense being too predictable with the high ball screen and usage of Jefferson as a facilitator. Seems like we have elevated Jefferson and demoted Gilbert and Jones. Our offense is way too dribble centric for my taste.
 

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TJ mentions there was a 15 minute stretch where we let poor offense impact what we did on defense. My guess is he is talking about the 17-2 run we gave up to end the half and the start of the second half.

My question for TJ is: why did he wait until the 17-2 run and 1 minute remaining in the first half to finally call a timeout?

This is now a trend that shows his philosophy is that he would rather preserve his 1st half timeout for the final minute of the half to maximize possessions over stopping the bleeding and letting a hole be dug.

It’s the very opposite of what good coaches do. Scott Drew, Bill Self, the list goes on of coaches calling TOs in the first half when we start to pull away. TJ seems to want to hold onto his to strategize for 60 seconds of basketball

And we are pretty bad at drawing up or executing plays out of timeouts during critical end game scenarios. We had 2 opportunities out of timeouts in OT and double OT to win or tie/win the game and we didn't get a shot off and threw up a prayer with 1 second left on the shot clock, respectively.

So we are saving run stopping timeouts for end of game scenario timeout where we are not drawing up or executing well. The worst of both worlds...
 

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At the final under 4 TV timeout in the first half

BYU - 19
ISU - 20

At the 1:14 mark in the first half when TJ called timeout

BYU - 31
ISU - 22
 

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And we are pretty bad at drawing up or executing plays out of timeouts during critical end game scenarios. We had 2 opportunities out of timeouts in OT and double OT to win or tie/win the game and we didn't get a shot off and threw up a prayer with 1 second left on the shot clock, respectively.

So we are saving run stopping timeouts for end of game scenario timeout where we are not drawing up or executing well. The worst of both worlds...
This is probably my biggest peeve. We hold onto them, then either don’t get a good look or turn the ball over.
 

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John and Eric got tired of waiting for him and went off air without interviewing him. Don't blame them, it was pushing close to midnight.

We gotta stop digging holes like this. While Hilton was electric when we made our run and into OT you can't go down by nearly 20 or even double digits in general by halftime or early 2nd half and expect to climb out of it consistently. The games we play our best are the ones we come out early and get up double digits and maintain it. Let the other team be the one pressing to score in a hurry down big. Seemed like we had guys hesitating to shoot at times or we ran the shot clock down too far and had to force a tough shot. Defense was pretty good most of the game and both teams shot FT VERY well. How we lose a game where we won the turnovers 11-29 is crazy. We did lose the rebounding 24-52 and a lot of that had to do with playing small down the stretch and through OT but if you play a team that turns it over 29 times you should win that game by double digits and we just did not capitalize on that enough last night.
 
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I feel like several of us are a broken record talking about our inability to move the ball offensively.

We had TWO total assists in the first half. We had 10 assists in the second half + OTs because we moved the ball. When the ball sticks and we dribble drive and throw up wild shots, we suck. When we move the ball, we are very good. How we continue to fall into the former is a coaching issue.
 

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John and Eric got tired of waiting for him and went off air without interviewing him. Don't blame them, it was pushing close to midnight.

We gotta stop digging holes like this. While Hilton was electric when we made our run and into OT you can't go down by nearly 20 or even double digits in general by halftime or early 2nd half and expect to climb out of it consistently. The games we play our best are the ones we come out early and get up double digits and maintain it. Let the other team be the one pressing to score in a hurry down big. Seemed like we had guys hesitating to shoot at times or we ran the shot clock down too far and had to force a tough shot. Defense was pretty good most of the game and both teams shot FT VERY well. How we lose a game where we won the turnovers 11-29 is crazy. We did lose the rebounding 24-52 and a lot of that had to do with playing small down the stretch and through OT but if you play a team that turns it over 29 times you should win that game by double digits and we just did not capitalize on that enough last night.
Given this teams current mentality, last thing they needed was a comeback win and then think they can continue to get away with playing sloppy for 15-20 minutes and win. Hopefully this punch in the mouth wakes some people up.
 

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Given this teams current mentality, last thing they needed was a comeback win and then think they can continue to get away with playing sloppy for 15-20 minutes and win. Hopefully this punch in the mouth wakes some people up.

The team has had plenty of wake-up calls. Hell there was just one 7 days ago.

BYU is playing really good. Sometimes you lose to good teams. The problem last night was that 15 minute stretch where we played like hot ******* garbage.
 

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Given this teams current mentality, last thing they needed was a comeback win and then think they can continue to get away with playing sloppy for 15-20 minutes and win. Hopefully this punch in the mouth wakes some people up.
I said it at the end of the game last night that while it was an exciting stretch at the end we didn't play well enough to deserve to win that game. I don't know how many more wake up calls they need. We technically are healthy again with everyone playing although Tamin is still being a warrior with his thumb and we don't know what % Gilbert is but can't use the "not at full strength" excuse last night when both those guys played 40+ mins. We're getting production from Heise lately although not much last night and Jones doesn't seem to be scoring at the pace he was earlier this season. Gotta get this offense figured out in a hurry, the defense will play but we've had some real stinkers offensively lately that are concerning. The OSU game was completely unacceptable, that team is garbage. KSU worries me, its on the road and they already spanked us once. If we don't come out of that game with a comfortable win our seeding in the NCAA tournament is going to slide. I still think we are a 3 if we win @KSU and at least make the Big 12 tournament game but a 2 seed is likely out of reach now and there is reason to worry about falling to a 4 seed if we stumble any more.
 

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BYU did a nice job of making ISU play small. ISU had the height advantage going into this game, but we found out in the 1st half that Jackson and Chatfield couldn't cut it on the defensive side. In return, we got demolished on the boards and that is the #1 reason ISU lost this game.
 

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I feel like several of us are a broken record talking about our inability to move the ball offensively.

We had TWO total assists in the first half. We had 10 assists in the second half + OTs because we moved the ball. When the ball sticks and we dribble drive and throw up wild shots, we suck. When we move the ball, we are very good. How we continue to fall into the former is a coaching issue.
You don't get assists when you miss shots. Couldn't make a shot in the 1st half.
 

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BYU did a nice job of making ISU play small. ISU had the height advantage going into this game, but we found out in the 1st half that Jackson and Chatfield couldn't cut it on the defensive side. In return, we got demolished on the boards and that is the #1 reason ISU lost this game.
Matchups will dictate some of this...but in general....Think we gotta go small from here on out more, and try to figure out the rebounding. The bigs just aren't consistent enough and teams really attack them defensively now.
 

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