Post your LOST explanations (with a date)..

clonomaniac

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Let's post what we think of certain events or chapters of the tv show LOST with a date so we can look them up and see what others think and see if they are alike:

Here's my post for the day:

2-19-09: This show keeps growing and keeps getting better in every episode. I like how they boought the losties back to the island and the viewers of this show are welcoming these concepts too.

Black smoke: So far the black smoke had tried to kill the bad people or people the island didn't expect in the first place. The few ones of the oceanic flight that landed in this island survived because the black smoke had allowed them to survive. Its either the island, or the smoke that drove the "rejects" away or had them killed - and if not by either the island or the smoke, they were killed or attacked by the "others". The black smoke had killed the murderer-turned-pastor black guy (don't remember his name) and I am not sure why that is. He seemed to be the only guy that was too religious and maybe the black smoke is trying to keep the island's people from being persuaded by religious beliefs.

Jacob and the difference between John Locke and Jack's dad/Claire: I have no idea why Jack's dad told John Locke to have never trusted Ben. Ben seemed to have close ties to Jacob, the leader of the island, who can apparently send the black smoke to kill of bad people or people Ben doesn't like.

The dead people elsewhere are alive in the island: Jack's dad died in Australia and were being brought back via Oceanic flight 815 (I think). We spotted his dad in this island wandering around in several episodes. He did say he died but he could be seen by both Claire and John. I wonder if and when John's dead body returns to this island, he will be just another ghost.

108 or the lottery numbers: Every 108 minutes they had to push the button to keep the island from moving or making that noise. The team seemed to be rescued on the 108th day. The lottery numbers are very specific to Hurley and the island's computer system. I wonder what that all means - it might just be conincident that Hurley's winning numbers are the island's numbers as well. Maybe that's why Hurley became a significant character to the story, or maybe the destiny picked Hurley to be on this island because he was done with his messy life. So yeah, I still don't know what exactly those numbers mean to the story.

Jin's escape from the island:
In an earlier episode, they show Jin had escaped from the island and actually married someone else. Well, I wonder when that really happened, since he never left the island or at least the viewers think that. I wonder when he bought that Panda for Sun's new born, how he ended up back in Japan.
 
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The_Architect

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I think Richard Alpert is actually from the distant future and the island was created as a time traveling device in the distant future.
 

The_Architect

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2-19-09: Who is this Richard again? Jack's dad?

No, he's the dark-haired "Other" that we've seen all over the place and in different time frames. Juliett even mentioned to Locke that he's "very old" when Locked asked how old he is.
 

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No, he's the dark-haired "Other" that we've seen all over the place and in different time frames. Juliett even mentioned to Locke that he's "very old" when Locked asked how old he is.

2-19-09: If Richard is from the future and should know Locke, how come he didn't recognize Locke when he saw him again after the flash?
If the island was created from the future for time travel why are all the Dharma initiatives tapes in black and white? I thought the Dharma guys discovered the island?!?
 

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I think Danielle and the Frenchies were in the coach section of Ajira Airways 316. The Oceanic 6 (minus Aaron and plus Lapidus) were taken from the plane during the flash of light and deposited on the island in a different time. The plane also traveled to a different point in time, ended up in the 1980s, and crashed in the ocean. Danielle and the Frenchies were the only survivors.

I could be way wrong.
 

clonomaniac

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I think Danielle and the Frenchies were in the coach section of Ajira Airways 316. The Oceanic 6 (minus Aaron and plus Lapidus) were taken from the plane during the flash of light and deposited on the island in a different time. The plane also traveled to a different point in time, ended up in the 1980s, and crashed in the ocean. Danielle and the Frenchies were the only survivors.

I could be way wrong.

Its a good theory but I don't think that's what happened. Russo had to have landed in that island right around Dharma iniative. If I am not mistaken Russo had that daughter with Ben. Isn't this the same Danielle Russo as the woman who Jack's group first met with a gun in her hand saying the others have taken the children and killed the men?

You know the funny thing is Jin is remembered by Russo but Jack was not remembered by Richard. Maybe, its because Jack went back in time.
 

dustinal

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Its a good theory but I don't think that's what happened. Russo had to have landed in that island right around Dharma iniative. If I am not mistaken Russo had that daughter with Ben. Isn't this the same Danielle Russo as the woman who Jack's group first met with a gun in her hand saying the others have taken the children and killed the men?

You know the funny thing is Jin is remembered by Russo but Jack was not remembered by Richard. Maybe, its because Jack went back in time.

Ben is not the biological father of Danielle's baby. He took the baby from her and raised her as his own. (At least I think this is the consensus among most fans--it may not have been specifically established in the show.)
 

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2/19/09

The island is purgatory. They all died in the plane crash. I have no other ideas.
 

The_Architect

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Ben WAS NOT the father of Roussou's baby. She was very pregnant when she arrived on the island. Her baby was taken by the others and raised as Ben's daughter.

*Why the heck can I not remember the daughters name...crap.
 
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The_Architect

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They've explained the polar bears on the island as "Dharma Initiative tests" and nothing more. However, when we first saw Charlotte's body we did see her crew in the middle of the Sahara desert uncover polar bear bones with the Dharma Inititive symbol.
 

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Polar Bears on tropic island? Global climate change... 02/19/09


2/19/09 The polar bears are the real time travelers from the duistant future when global cooling will have visited the moved island after the 108 minute Easy button disintegrated and was not properly pushed when the black smoke encapsulated the button pusher who suddenly became so impregnated that it could not complete the act of button pushing thus sending John Locke and his hordes back to their original time with all traces of time travel immediately erradicated in the universe. So I was wrong....maybe Doug Adams wrote this stuff
 

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Jin's escape from the island:
In an earlier episode, they show Jin had escaped from the island and actually married someone else. Well, I wonder when that really happened, since he never left the island or at least the viewers think that. I wonder when he bought that Panda for Sun's new born, how he ended up back in Japan.
Jin never left the island. In that episode, Jin's scenes were a flasback and Sun's a flashfoward. The episode was put together to make the viewer's think throughout the episode that Jin was one of the Oceanic 6 (back when we knew 6 left, but not who). Jin bought the Panda as a gift for someone who did business with Jin's boss (Sun's dad). It clearly happened in the past, because he said he'd never been married. Also, they're from Korea, not Japan.

2-19-09: If Richard is from the future and should know Locke, how come he didn't recognize Locke when he saw him again after the flash?
If the island was created from the future for time travel why are all the Dharma initiatives tapes in black and white? I thought the Dharma guys discovered the island?!?
The island isn't from the future. Neither is Richard. Richard didn't recognize Locke because they hadn't met yet.

It seems that the island was discovered by the US Army in 1954 (we saw this earlier in the season in the episode with the big bomb). The DI people ostensibly used the pendulum room to locate the island sometime after that, which happens to be around the time that Jin, Faraday, Sawyer, and Juliette are stuck. That would also be the time that Jack and co. apparently ended up in.

*Why the heck can I not remember the daughters name...crap.
Alex was her name.
 

Wesley

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Jin never left the island. In that episode, Jin's scenes were a flashback and Sun's a flashforward. The episode was put together to make the viewer's think throughout the episode that Jin was one of the Oceanic 6 (back when we knew 6 left, but not who). Jin bought the Panda as a gift for someone who did business with Jin's boss (Sun's dad). It clearly happened in the past, because he said he'd never been married. Also, they're from Korea, not Japan.


The island isn't from the future. Neither is Richard. Richard didn't recognize Locke because they hadn't met yet.

It seems that the island was discovered by the US Army in 1954 (we saw this earlier in the season in the episode with the big bomb). The DI people ostensibly used the pendulum room to locate the island sometime after that, which happens to be around the time that Jin, Faraday, Sawyer, and Juliette are stuck. That would also be the time that Jack and co. apparently ended up in.


Alex was her name.


Maybe the island first appeared after a nuclear bomb test in 1954. 2/19/09
 

CycloneYoda

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Let's post what we think of certain events or chapters of the tv show LOST with a date so we can look them up and see what others think and see if they are alike:


Jin's escape from the island:
In an earlier episode, they show Jin had escaped from the island and actually married someone else. Well, I wonder when that really happened, since he never left the island or at least the viewers think that. I wonder when he bought that Panda for Sun's new born, how he ended up back in Japan.

In the episode you are talking about, titled "Ji Yeon" Jin was having a flashback while it was a flashfoward for Sun. Jin was in China and was to get the panda for a gift from Mr. Paik. It was the Year of The Dragon, which would have been 2000. Jin never escaped the island and was married to someone else. Never happened.
 

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The first time I thought time travel was involved is during Season 2 when Hurley gives the Tail Section survivor's radio to Sayid, and they end up finding some old-time music playing. Sayid said it could be coming from anywhere, and Hurley responded "Or any time."


The U.S. army has some involvemnet with this island. The knife Goodwin had, the grenade Locke put in Miles mouth were both WWII issued items.

Strange tidbit not many have picked up on: The original pilot was found in a tree after Smokey whooped him up hardcore. On the ground were a pair of WWII-issued aviator wings. If you look closely, all of the stewardesses had wings also. Don't know if it means anything yet, but it just might. Hmmmmmm...
 

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