Parity in the Big XII

norcalcy

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The league is quite balanced as evidenced by the K State and WV wins today. Texas and Oklahoma are not what they used to be. Baylor is made up of mortals after all. Time for us to join the party. ISU can compete. It's not impossible.
 

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We are at the party, we are just stuck at the little kids table with UT/KU/TT. :smile:
 

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I think the top of the Big 12 is about as good as anyone. The bottom however is worse than it's been in quite some time. It's no longer KU on the bottom rung. ISU, Tech, and Texas will all likely not be bowl eligible by seasons end. Can't have 40% of your conference in the dumper and still get a lot of respect.
 

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The problem is that it isn't the traditional powers that are leading the conference anymore. That is making the national commentary look at this conference and see weakness.

Today's ESPN talking point:
"SEC West = gauntlet, Big12 = mediocre"
 

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I think the top of the Big 12 is about as good as anyone. The bottom however is worse than it's been in quite some time. It's no longer KU on the bottom rung. ISU, Tech, and Texas will all likely not be bowl eligible by seasons end. Can't have 40% of your conference in the dumper and still get a lot of respect.

:huh: Playing a 9 game conference schedule likely means one less win for half the teams and 40% of your conference not making a bowl is not atypical.
 

norcalcy

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Relative weakness of the conference still a big opportunity for ISU. Time to stop being afraid of helmets with BU, horns or OU on the side.
 

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I think the top of the Big 12 is about as good as anyone. The bottom however is worse than it's been in quite some time. It's no longer KU on the bottom rung. ISU, Tech, and Texas will all likely not be bowl eligible by seasons end. Can't have 40% of your conference in the dumper and still get a lot of respect.

Compare that botom four to the bottom four of the other conferences. There is not much difference. Plus, the top 60% is what determines respect, not the bottom 40%, which is not that bad anyways.

Any lack of respect, if there is any, is by far due to the same issues that come up in realignment talk. It has very little to do with quality of teams.
 

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I think the top of the Big 12 is about as good as anyone. The bottom however is worse than it's been in quite some time. It's no longer KU on the bottom rung. ISU, Tech, and Texas will all likely not be bowl eligible by seasons end. Can't have 40% of your conference in the dumper and still get a lot of respect.

We just need more conference members! Scott van pelt tweeted a comparison of the SEC vs Big 12. He pitted the top 10 SEC teams against the entire 10 from big 12. He seemed to think it was fair.
 

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On a given day Baylor, OU, TCU, and K-State could beat anybody in the country. I personally don't think Iowa State, Texas Tech, and Texa$ are as bad as some of you do though. Kansas is another level of bad, IMO
 

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I guess we should fire all the coaches. We should be the best team in the BXII:pbiggrin:
 

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I think you can call it parity becuase the games among the top teams have generally been close and several teams played close with fsu, bama and auburn although in close losses.
 

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Today is about the first time that the top teams start to play each other (KSU/OU, TCU/OSU) and the bottom teams start to play each other (UT/ISU, KU/TTech). Some of those top teams will take losses and those bottom teams will get wins and it will start to look little more evenly spread from top to bottom.

We've got a chance for wins today and later against Tech and Kansas. Maybe WVU and hell who knows about OU, they haven't been dominant the past couple weeks. At this point I like our chances against OU more than TCU.
 

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As of today, no Big 12 team in the playoff since no CCG
 

dualthreat

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On a given day Baylor, OU, TCU, and K-State could beat anybody in the country. I personally don't think Iowa State, Texas Tech, and Texa$ are as bad as some of you do though. Kansas is another level of bad, IMO

Kansas is significantly better than Purdue
 

norcalcy

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We are at the party, we are just stuck at the little kids table with UT/KU/TT. :smile:

Today is a critical game for CPR. First step to respectability is winning these types of games (dominating those at the "kid table"). Time to show some of that potential we keep talking about. Guys need to rise to the occasion. UT is ripe for the picking. New coach, new players, still installing new culture. Probably some letdown from OU last week. K State is showing us how to do it.
 

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The problem is that it isn't the traditional powers that are leading the conference anymore. That is making the national commentary look at this conference and see weakness.

Today's ESPN talking point:
"SEC West = gauntlet, Big12 = mediocre"
Especially this. It annoys me when I hear their podcast points on Championship Drive. It's all about the SEC West anymore. Since when do we care about divisions? Ignoring the East doesn't make them magically disappear so you can make the conference look better. They suddenly bash Baylor and TCU for their high scoring game saying things like "That's horrible football." or "There is no defense in the Big 12."

The media is so biased against the Big 12 and so pro SEC. They are just trying to project their perception onto the voters of the committee and the rest of the country regarding college athletics. It's so old. Danny Kanell is the only one at ESPN who respects the Big 12 and PAC 12 for that matter anymore.
 
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