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BigJCy

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Still not quite sure how the Brewers have the record that they do. Credit to them I guess but I think there has been some over-achievement there.
 

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If my research is correct, Bote and Wisdom have a combined 7 ABs since July 13. Hoyer has built a roster essentially playing 2 short for an extended period. You could argue Madrigal is hurt, but I'm not sure that helps the argument much.

Edit now 7 after Bote PH.
 

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Head scratcher to bench Busch for Wisdom. There is not a stat out there that says Wisdom is a better hitter vs lefties than Busch. Real ******* tired of the computer ******** telling our managers what boneheaded moves to make.
 

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Still not quite sure how the Brewers have the record that they do. Credit to them I guess but I think there has been some over-achievement there.
playoffs 5 of the last 6 years with one of the smallest payrolls in MLB. this isn't new.
 

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If my research is correct, Bote and Wisdom have a combined 7 ABs since July 13. Hoyer has built a roster essentially playing 2 short for an extended period. You could argue Madrigal is hurt, but I'm not sure that helps the argument much.

Edit now 7 after Bote PH.
For some reason I thought Wisdom was on the IL right now since he hasn't been used in awhile, lol! I have not hidden my thoughts here on how much I loathe him so can't say I haven't missed him the past 10 days. Not that I am a big fan of Mastrouni either but he is far superior defensively and at least is not an all or nothing swing for the fence AB when he's in the lineup. Really hope neither is on the roster next season else its just more of the same old status quo again.
 

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Wisdom, Mastrobuoni, Bote, and Tauchman are no doubt great clubhouse guys but they can’t be depth pieces on a playoff caliber team. I think part of the off-season is making better decisions on depth pieces. In my mind, I think Morel has to be a DH or super-utility role.

I don’t think Coby Mayo is as far fetched of an option for the Cubs. Taillon, BJ Murray, and some cash could get it done.
 
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Wisdom, Mastrobuoni, Bote, and Tauchman are no doubt great clubhouse guys but they can’t be depth pieces on a playoff caliber team. I think part of the off-season is making better decisions on depth pieces. In my mind, I think Morel has to be a DH or super-utility role.

I don’t think Coby Mayo is as far fetched of an option for the Cubs. Taillon, BJ Murray, and some cash could get it done.
Now that Tauchman is healthy I wonder if he is a trade candidate too. Probably not getting much for him but if they do any kind of sell off he's a guy that is blocking some talent in Iowa right now. Wisdom, Mastrobouni, and Bote aren't guys playoff contenders will likely be interested but I would trade any of them at this point for whatever you can get even if it is a bucket of batting practice balls. The FO wants to shed some money, Wisdom is on the books (would only shed the pro-rated ammounts for the rest of the season) for $2.725 mil, Tauchman $1.95, no one is taking on all of Bote's $5.51 and the obvious Smyly at $10.5 that Cubs may have to eat a little of to get anything of reasonable return for there is some places to shave a little for guys that likely will not be back next season so doesn't really matter if you get next to nothing in return you clear some roster spots and a little payroll. Neris would be nice to trade but that player option is likely to kick in so Cubs may have to send some money if they want something in return.

Taillon is the most desirable trade chip to shed both money and get something in return but I also feels he's worth keeping for 2025 if there isn't a good return to be had for him. I'm not against trading Morel either but don't want to just give him away and watch him do what Schwarber did and turn into the player we had hoped he was. Just like Happ before the extension, Morel has had higher trade value and they chose not to move on it when they could have cashed in. This front office has done a poor job over the years over-valuing our players which has led to stagnant rosters that have holes they can't fill because they didn't make the moves soon enough to address them.
 

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Now that Tauchman is healthy I wonder if he is a trade candidate too. Probably not getting much for him but if they do any kind of sell off he's a guy that is blocking some talent in Iowa right now. Wisdom, Mastrobouni, and Bote aren't guys playoff contenders will likely be interested but I would trade any of them at this point for whatever you can get even if it is a bucket of batting practice balls. The FO wants to shed some money, Wisdom is on the books (would only shed the pro-rated ammounts for the rest of the season) for $2.725 mil, Tauchman $1.95, no one is taking on all of Bote's $5.51 and the obvious Smyly at $10.5 that Cubs may have to eat a little of to get anything of reasonable return for there is some places to shave a little for guys that likely will not be back next season so doesn't really matter if you get next to nothing in return you clear some roster spots and a little payroll. Neris would be nice to trade but that player option is likely to kick in so Cubs may have to send some money if they want something in return.

Taillon is the most desirable trade chip to shed both money and get something in return but I also feels he's worth keeping for 2025 if there isn't a good return to be had for him. I'm not against trading Morel either but don't want to just give him away and watch him do what Schwarber did and turn into the player we had hoped he was. Just like Happ before the extension, Morel has had higher trade value and they chose not to move on it when they could have cashed in. This front office has done a poor job over the years over-valuing our players which has led to stagnant rosters that have holes they can't fill because they didn't make the moves soon enough to address them.
Selling Taillon and Hendricks expiring contract makes Burnes very attainable.

Top 3 Steele Burnes Imanaga is pretty solid.
Depth with Assad, Brown Wicks Wesneski and eventually Horton sets us up pretty good in 25.

Just need to fix a position for 25 if you deal Taillon.
 

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Head scratcher to bench Busch for Wisdom. There is not a stat out there that says Wisdom is a better hitter vs lefties than Busch. Real ******* tired of the computer ******** telling our managers what boneheaded moves to make.
going to agree with you on that. Let him hit as he has been batting. Wisdom has not seen the plate so he is out of practice although if he had got a little more of the pitch then we would say what a good move.
 

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Weird hypothetical I just thought of

I'm not getting rid of Hoerner just to get rid of him, but I wonder if you could swing a Hoerner for Bobby Miller trade straight up. Cali boy for Chicago boy.

Cubs save $11 MM and now can give Triantos/Shaw/Morel a chance at 2B along with getting a guy with ace potential.

Dodgers get an upgrade at SS/2B while Miller is in a Busch-like scenario where the Dodgers will have Ohtani, Yamamoto, Buehler, May, and Glasnow all available next year along with four back of the rotation guys in Gonsolin, Sheehan, Wrobleski, and Ryan.

My guess is the Dodgers would want more, but who knows how desperate they are.
 

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According to David Vassegh of “Dodger Talk,” the Dodgers have inquired on Happ and Hoerner, but have no interest in Belli.

While it’s been reported he wants to stay in Chicago, LA does open up Happs market.
 

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Is Mastrobuoni’s dad in the front office or something? Dude is simply not a Major League Baseball player and I’m not sure why he keeps getting run out there every other day.