MLB: ***Official 2017 Chicago Cubs Season Thread***

[chuckd4735]

Also, Dusty has lost his last 9 playoff series clinching games.

Went up 3-1 in 2003 NLCS, lost 3 straight.
Went up 2-0 in the 2012 NLDS, lost 3 straight.
Lost the 2013 WC game
Went up 2-1 in the 2016 NLDS, lost 2 straight.
Tied 2-2 in the 2017 NLDS...

 

[Clark]

Per Jesse Rogers, the cubs have lost 8 postseason games the last two years. 5 of them were by shutout. When they're bad, they're really bad

 

[CyJack13]

In 2017:

In save situations, Edwards has a 6.08 ERA because he is trash under pressure.

When entering a game with a runner on first, second, OR third, the opponents OBP against him is .500. Thats ******* awful.

When bases are loaded with less than 2 outs and he enters the game, OBP against him is .750. That's even worse!!!

Lastly, his ERA by inning this year

5th inning: 0.00 in 1.2 innings.
6th inning: 0.00 in 10.1 innings
7th inning: 2.01 in 22.1 innings
8th inning: 5.67 in 27 innings
9th inning: 0.00 in 2 innings

Who in the right mind thinks this guy can be a set up man for a playoff team?

How does he have a 6.08 ERA in save situations and a 0.00 ERA in the 9th?

 

[ISUCubswin]

How does he have a 6.08 ERA in save situations and a 0.00 ERA in the 9th?

Good question - my stats are coming straight from Baseball Reference.

My guess is they include it as a save situation if you're pitching in the 7th or 8th inning even if you get taken out. Technically you're in a save situation up 8 runs and pitching a complete 7th, 8th, and 9th inning. So if he's pitching in the 8th up 4, he's in a save situation even if he just gets a hold.

 

[CyJack13]

Good question - my stats are coming straight from Baseball Reference.

My guess is they include it as a save situation if you're pitching in the 7th or 8th inning even if you get taken out. Technically you're in a save situation up 8 runs and pitching a complete 7th, 8th, and 9th inning. So if he's pitching in the 8th up 4, he's in a save situation even if he just gets a hold.

Right that seems really high though, if that's true, that's extremely surprising.

 

[ISUCubswin]

Right that seems really high though, if that's true, that's extremely surprising.

Again, 6.08 ERA in save situations, 5.67 ERA in the 8th inning. This tells me when there isn't any pressure in the 8th inning, (Cubs are up by a ton) he's going to be fine, as his ERA is technically lower in that time.

 

[CyJack13]

Again, 6.08 ERA in save situations, 5.67 ERA in the 8th inning. This tells me when there isn't any pressure in the 8th inning, (Cubs are up by a ton) he's going to be fine, as his ERA is technically lower in that time.

But also a low 2 ERA in about as many innings in the 7th which would also be in a save situation if they were defining it that way. Those would have to be mostly when they were losing?

 

[ISUCubswin]

Rondon in save situations this year: 1.29 ERA in 13 games.

Rondon in non-save situations this year: 4.62 ERA in 48 games

In 23.1 innings, he has a 3.09 ERA in the 8th inning.

He isn't great, he isn't as filthy as Edwards. But he can handle pressure.

 

[chuckd4735]

Rondon in save situations this year: 1.29 ERA in 13 games.

Rondon in non-save situations this year: 4.62 ERA in 48 games

In 23.1 innings, he has a 3.09 ERA in the 8th inning.

He isn't great, he isn't as filthy as Edwards. But he can handle pressure.

I looked the day the roster came out, but didn't see if the question was asked. I would think Rondons injury had to flare up. Makes no sense why he's not on the roster.

 

[ISUCubswin]

But also a low 2 ERA in about as many innings in the 7th which would also be in a save situation if they were defining it that way. Those would have to be mostly when they were losing?

That would be my guess, but I'm not sure exactly how they define their stuff

 

[ISUCubswin]

I looked the day the roster came out, but didn't see if the question was asked. I would think Rondons injury had to flare up. Makes no sense why he's not on the roster.

Because, as much as I do support Maddon in the regular season and think he's the best manager in baseball, he, for whatever reason, does not like Rondon.

 

[ISUCubswin]

I am curious - after this season, Theo will have his press conference and address the Cubs needs. If he happened you call you and said he is will be addressing 3 players/positions, what are you telling him?

(You can say 3 starting pitchers, 3 relievers, 2 outfielders and a starting pitcher, etc...)

Bonus points if you give me the names of the 3 signees as well. Loss of bonus points if it's unrealistic financially.

 

[CyJack13]

Rondon in save situations this year: 1.29 ERA in 13 games.

Rondon in non-save situations this year: 4.62 ERA in 48 games

In 23.1 innings, he has a 3.09 ERA in the 8th inning.

He isn't great, he isn't as filthy as Edwards. But he can handle pressure.

The only runs Rondon gave up in a save situation all year was the home run by Gardner against the Yankees? I do not get how they are defining a save situation. What sub category is that under on baseball reference?

 

[ISUCubswin]

The only runs Rondon gave up in a save situation all year was the home run by Gardner against the Yankees? I do not get how they are defining a save situation. What sub category is that under on baseball reference?

I have no clue what it is either.

Game Outcome is the sub-category I am looking at. Under 2017 splits.

 

[CyJack13]

Because, as much as I do support Maddon in the regular season and think he's the best manager in baseball, he, for whatever reason, does not like Rondon.

Why do you say that? He was great under Maddon until he got hurt last Aug. Maddon didn't go out and trade for Chapman. Rondon was never healthy after his injury last year and struggled in the postseason which is why Maddon didn't use him. He also struggled a lot this year but seemed to be righting himself down the stretch. Maddon doesnt make the playoff rosters alone either.

 

[CyJack13]

I have no clue what it is either.

Game Outcome is the sub-category I am looking at. Under 2017 splits.

I think you're looking at SO/W ratio not ERA. It looks to me like Rondon has an 8.71 ERA in save situations this year.

Just for Rondon, Edwards numbers look right.

 

[BigJCy]

I've noticed this in the past as well. I'm surprised more teams don't throw it all the time to Bryant cause he really struggles with the change-up. Now granted most pitchers can't throw it as well as Strasburg does.

 

[CyJack13]

I've noticed this in the past as well. I'm surprised more teams don't throw it all the time to Bryant cause he really struggles with the change-up. Now granted most pitchers can't throw it as well as Strasburg does.

His other kryptonite, clutch hitting.

 

[cyclonestans]

Max is going tomorrow already? 2 days rest i guess this sums it up....

 

[CloneinWDSM]

Curious to see if Joe goes with Almora in the leadoff spot tomorrow like game 2