Offensive Style of Play

ThatllDoCy

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I wanted to see what everyone thinks the direction of the Offense should go. Next year you tailor it to your roster and the talent you have.

In the future I would like to see us use a more Pro Style, but not in the Stanford/Michigan vein, although in some ways similar. I'd like to see some TE's in the game to provide motion, blocking and quick throws. Similar to how the Bears OC Adam Gase does. Please don't flame me Vikings/Packers fans the Bears are who I watch, and although the Bears offense is anemic, I believe that has more to do with talent at WR than system.

Base offense is the shotgun, and pistol, but they do line up in the I formation on goal line and short yardage. They do use a fullback which I would like to see as well. Bennett and now Zach Miller are weapons with TD's but also block. The quick screen is also used quite a bit. They are able to run out of it as well.

Mangino was using the TE to some affect, but Sturdy did not use them much if at all. So at the Pro level we see TE's getting multiple targets during the game. They catch, they block and they are versatile. It may not be Campbell's current scheme, but I think that wrinkle would give defensive secondaries fits in the Big 12. Stanford just beats you over the head with it, and I would like to see some o that mindset. Get some big bodies out there on the safeties and linebackers.
 

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I wanted to see what everyone thinks the direction of the Offense should go. Next year you tailor it to your roster and the talent you have.

In the future I would like to see us use a more Pro Style, but not in the Stanford/Michigan vein, although in some ways similar. I'd like to see some TE's in the game to provide motion, blocking and quick throws. Similar to how the Bears OC Adam Gase does. Please don't flame me Vikings/Packers fans the Bears are who I watch, and although the Bears offense is anemic, I believe that has more to do with talent at WR than system.

Base offense is the shotgun, and pistol, but they do line up in the I formation on goal line and short yardage. They do use a fullback which I would like to see as well. Bennett and now Zach Miller are weapons with TD's but also block. The quick screen is also used quite a bit. They are able to run out of it as well.

Mangino was using the TE to some affect, but Sturdy did not use them much if at all. So at the Pro level we see TE's getting multiple targets during the game. They catch, they block and they are versatile. It may not be Campbell's current scheme, but I think that wrinkle would give defensive secondaries fits in the Big 12. Stanford just beats you over the head with it, and I would like to see some o that mindset. Get some big bodies out there on the safeties and linebackers.

Great USA Today article written about Matt earlier this year. He was to be hired by Urban Meyer to be the OC at OSU when CMC was the interim HC but then Toledo took off the interim tag. Urban knows him some coaching...
 

ThatllDoCy

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Sign me up. Gase' approach is really about understanding match-ups and creating mismatches, and using his personnel effectively. Obviously, he is not the only one that does this, and I think this approach to offense is the new school way of doing it as opposed to just running a system. Would need a very smart QB Coach(Sage?) because the QB will need to make good decisions and have an understanding of the other team's personnel. I think what we would see in second halves is that the defense would figure out what we were doing and force it to change which it could not. The playcalling was predictable and they didn't have wrinkles to punish the defense for what they were doing.


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/01/26/durkins-playbook-breaking-down-adam-gases-offensive-schemes/
 

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No spread. And no more ******* -2 yard bubble screen passes! (Unless you learn how to set the bubble. Fail one time and it should never be run again)
 

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Regardless of what offense we run. As long as the tank known as Joel Lanning is our QB the next two years we better be running a QB sneak from under center when we need to pick up 1 inch rather than snapping the ball backwards 5 yards.
 
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We also need Joel to work on his passing accuracy and consistency. If we get some guys to step up on the Oline and Joel improves we could be decent.
 

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Sign me up. Gase' approach is really about understanding match-ups and creating mismatches, and using his personnel effectively. Obviously, he is not the only one that does this, and I think this approach to offense is the new school way of doing it as opposed to just running a system. Would need a very smart QB Coach(Sage?) because the QB will need to make good decisions and have an understanding of the other team's personnel. I think what we would see in second halves is that the defense would figure out what we were doing and force it to change which it could not. The playcalling was predictable and they didn't have wrinkles to punish the defense for what they were doing.


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/01/26/durkins-playbook-breaking-down-adam-gases-offensive-schemes/

I have always felt our football playback was limited by being too basic. If the next staff was smart, they would get on top of the playbook and be ready to roll come the opening game. One reason the other teams are high scoring is their playbook is already up to speed at start of the season.
 

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Whatever it takes to score 30+ points. Self evident, but can't win without points. The most frustrating part of the CPR era was wasting competent defensive efforts while the offense ground to a halt and struggled to score in the low to mid 20's. That formula doesn't even work in the NFL anymore. The rules of the game are tilted in favor of the offense. A running game is crucial, but we also need a dynamic QB that can regularly put the ball in play for for receivers to make a play. Power football includes a dynamic passing game (see Stanford and Notre Dame last night).

Final depressing stat of 2015: Outscored on offense in the second half by 193 to 103. Adjustments, adjustments, adjustments!!!
 

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Whatever it takes to score 30+ points. Self evident, but can't win without points. The most frustrating part of the CPR era was wasting competent defensive efforts while the offense ground to a halt and struggled to score in the low to mid 20's. That formula doesn't even work in the NFL anymore. The rules of the game are tilted in favor of the offense. A running game is crucial, but we also need a dynamic QB that can regularly put the ball in play for for receivers to make a play. Power football includes a dynamic passing game (see Stanford and Notre Dame last night).

Final depressing stat of 2015: Outscored on offense in the second half by 193 to 103. Adjustments, adjustments, adjustments!!!

This is essentially even in the first half in points. Was the defense worn down.The first two defensive possession in the last game in the second hlf looked good, but the offense did nothing and then the game got out of hand. Until we score points, we will be a three win team in B12.
 

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Formations that maximize Warren's running ability. Lead blockers. Pre-snap motion so the defense can't stay settled. And for the love of everything holy, run something under center so the RBs have some momentum when they get the ball.