Offensive play calling

CycloneVet

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It wasn’t just the play calling either. It was a whole new offense. A lot like what Iowa runs. No quarterback running back option. It was a crap version of the spread. Purdys best threat is his ability to run and we set up no run pass option plays for him. Hiring him as offensive coordinator might be the worst thing we have done since chizik hires Bolt and Rhodes hires Messingham.

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If a random poster were to suggest Heacock is the real deal for ISU success on-field and if CMC ever left Heacock would be a natural fit for head coach would that poster be ostracized?

If you’re trying to say that the only reason we’ve been successful is because of Jon, you would be.
 

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It allowed us to win 8 games last year and have our biggest loss be 10 points. If we try to run and gun with the big boys but have less talent they will kill us. You can’t play their game with less talent and win, you have to be different.
Right because it’s either score 13 on UNI or you’re running and gunning with the big boys.

It allowed us, or limited us to 8 wins? I’m sure glad we did not settle for this approach against OU in 2017 or Ok St in 2018. Iowa and Ok st in 2017 would have been blowouts had we played this “vanilla”.

When we believe the defense can’t hold another team down, and that we’ll need to score more, we are better at scoring.
 

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I must have blacked out from all that early morning tailgating and missed all those long runs that lead to 45 points. The score keeper must have blacked out as well because I don't see any in the box score...

Totally missing the point. I'd suggest more beer.
 

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Totally missing the point. I'd suggest more beer.
What point would that be? Fantasizing that our offense is regularly ripping off 45 yard runs would be fun to watch when the reality on the field is completely different?
 

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It was really bad, and that's being kind.

But we should have expected it. I've been saying for a long time that this offense has never been good under CMC. He was lucky to have Monty and Butler to rely on last year, but even with that it was ranked like 95th in the country out of 129 teams.

I was hoping Manning would be better than he was before since going to Indy, but it appears not. The playcalling was horrible today.
Campbell was not lucky to have those guys last year. He and his staff bust their ass and work countless hours in the off-season to go get talent unlike any coach we’ve had the last 40 years.
 
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Are we going to be back to not knowing who is really calling the plays?
See post #9

In his first year, CMC said he was not allowed in the defense meetings. That has worked out pretty well. Maybe if CMC stepped back our O coordinator and O assistants could come up with something more effective on the offensive side of the ball.

Let CMC captain the ship and let his crew do their jobs.
 

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I don't want to answer that.

The OL talked this offseason how they weren't happy that they were looked at as the weak link of the team last season.... so they came out today and stunk it up again just to show that it was all true.
I really don’t think the OL was quite as bad as you think it was. The promising thing is that they finally actually look like they might be capable of run blocking. Last year they couldn’t run block for ****.
 

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Everyone should be fine with this, it's way we we can win consistently in the B12.
Not with the line development we’ve had under CMC, and I wasn’t even that disappointed with the line play today.


We’ve kept it close in both high scoring games and low scoring games. When we think we need to score more to win, we generally score more.
Our defense doesn’t benefit from our anemic game-plans against TCU and Iowa a year ago, nor do our chances of winning. Which of our higher scoring losses would have been wins had we scored less?
 

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I really don’t think the OL was quite as bad as you think it was. The promising thing is that they finally actually look like they might be capable of run blocking. Last year they couldn’t run block for ****.
Even though UNI has a good defense, a team that is supposed to be contending for a Big 12 title should be able to dominate an FCS school. The line wasn't horrible but I wasn't impressed one bit.
 

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What point would that be? Fantasizing that our offense is regularly ripping off 45 yard runs would be fun to watch when the reality on the field is completely different?

I'm saying that if some of those plays broke, which some were closer than you're obviously seeing, and ISU scored more as a result, it wouldn't seem so ho-hum. UNI's pursuit was sound.

Screens and underneath patterns and runs off the edge are very common in football and often go long.

Example: JUST watched Missouri score on pretty much a 15 yard hitch turned into a 53 yard TD. So boring!
 
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Even though UNI has a good defense, a team that is supposed to be contending for a Big 12 title should be able to dominate an FCS school. The line wasn't horrible but I wasn't impressed one bit.
So Iowa shouldn’t have needed 2 blocked fgs to beat UNI in 2009 right? Had Stanzi not gotten hurt against Northwestern they probably win the Big 10 that year.

Heck I remember VA Tech losing to James Madison in 2010 and winning the ACC. These top level FCS teams can ball and struggling week one doesn’t at all mean we wont contend to win the Big 12.
 
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See post #.... Maybe if CMC stepped back our O coordinator and O assistants could come up with something more effective on the offensive side of the ball.
Let CMC captain the ship and let his crew do their jobs.

Read post #9. So on the 3rd and 1, 4th and 1 calls, CW needs to find out who was calling and who was tweaking.
 
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The play calling was ok. They did have a good game yardage wise. Just couldn't finish, they made stupid mistakes, and the line struggled at times. What bugs me is not going for it on 4th and 1 around mid field. With that D take a chance every now and then.