ISU and PAC12 Attendance and merger idea

[FeedBreece]

I have my doubts that would be feasible but it’s definitely a fun idea. I like that variety of teams.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Curious how it would look if the B1G grabbed those six Pac-12 teams, and then a few years later the B1G and SEC snatched up the ACC teams that would add value. The B1G and SEC would consolidate $$$, and the leftovers would consolidate out of necessity.

Of course these leagues would go to pods or something at this size, but this is just quick and dirty and is never gonna happen anyway.

B1G = 22 schools

B1G West
Cal
Illinois
Iowa
Minnesota
Nebraska
Oregon
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Wisconsin

B1G East
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
North Carolina
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Rutgers
Virginia


SEC = 20 schools

SEC West
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Texas
Texas A&M

SEC East
Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
Miami
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech


Big 12/Pac-12/ACC Merged Conference = 22 schools

Big 12/Pac-12/ACC Merged West
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Colorado
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Oregon State
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah
Washington State

Big 12/Pac-12/ACC Merged East
Boston College
Duke
Georgia Tech
Iowa State
Kansas
Louisville
NC State
Pitt
Syracuse
Wake Forest
West Virginia

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Curious how it would look if the B1G grabbed those six Pac-12 teams, and then a few years later the B1G and SEC snatched up the ACC teams that would add value. The B1G and SEC would consolidate $$$, and the leftovers would consolidate out of necessity.

Of course these leagues would go to pods or something at this size, but this is just quick and dirty and is never gonna happen anyway.

B1G = 22 schools

B1G West
Cal
Illinois
Iowa
Minnesota
Nebraska
Oregon
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Wisconsin

B1G East
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
North Carolina
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Rutgers
Virginia


SEC = 20 schools

SEC West
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Texas
Texas A&M

SEC East
Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
Miami
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech


Big 12/Pac-12/ACC Merged Conference = 22 schools

Big 12/Pac-12/ACC Merged West
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Colorado
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Oregon State
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah
Washington State

Big 12/Pac-12/ACC Merged East
Boston College
Duke
Georgia Tech
Iowa State
Kansas
Louisville
NC State
Pitt
Syracuse
Wake Forest
West Virginia

Obv realignment is about football but that big ten east division would have insane basketball matches

 

[Pope]

My guess is this ends with the big ten taking 6 pac schools and calling it good. We end up in some form of a poor mans pac 12.

Reality is there just isn’t anywhere for us to go.

attendance doesn’t matter, winning the big 12 or even winning a national championship this year won’t matter either

this idea that winning will help, it won’t, nothing will help

Good Lord, I nominate you as chair of the Cyclone Fanatic Debbie Downers Club.

 

[Jayshellberg]

After reading all these posts, I have come to the conclusion that nobody knows what the f…k is going to happen. It’s all pure speculation.

 

[RustShack]

After reading all these posts, I have come to the conclusion that nobody knows what the f…k is going to happen. It’s all pure speculation.

You thought people in an “idea” thread would know what’s going on, when no one knows what’s going on?

 

[KidSilverhair]

Each conference has four divisions.

NFL: Teams play everybody in their division twice

Mega college “conferences”: Maybe you’ll see another team in your conference play in your stadium once every seven years

 

[RustShack]

NFL: Teams play everybody in their division twice

Mega college “conferences”: Maybe you’ll see another team in your conference play in your stadium once every seven years

Depends on how big “mega” gets. 16 teams it could be play them once every two years, home every four. The other three in your pod you play every year.

 

[isucy86]

Depends on how big “mega” gets. 16 teams it could be play them once every two years, home every four. The other three in your pod you play every year.

With $ that networks are paying, probably 10 conference game becomes norm for all P5. But would not surprise me to see a 13th game added eventually, with 11 conference games.

Especially if ESPN & FOX become aligned with conferences.

 

[RustShack]

With $ that networks are paying, probably 10 conference game becomes norm for all P5. But would not surprise me to see a 13th game added eventually, with 11 conference games.

Especially if ESPN & FOX become aligned with conferences.

We will see 12 P5 games before a 13th game is added.

We‘ll see a semi final to conference championships before that too.

That’s not even mentioning expanding the playoffs past 4.

 

[cyclone1209]

After reading all these posts, I have come to the conclusion that nobody knows what the f…k is going to happen. It’s all pure speculation.

This is true, and if we continue to win 9+ games a year.. I am comfortable in saying Iowa State will land somewhere thats okay.

If it's the big ten, that's a slam dunk. If it is some reworked big12/pac12 super conf, then that is good too. Keep winning and this will be fine. I'm actually kind of done worrying about it and just want to enjoy some W's again soon.

 

[alexssdean12]

Curious how it would look if the B1G grabbed those six Pac-12 teams, and then a few years later the B1G and SEC snatched up the ACC teams that would add value. The B1G and SEC would consolidate $$$, and the leftovers would consolidate out of necessity.

Of course these leagues would go to pods or something at this size, but this is just quick and dirty and is never gonna happen anyway.

B1G = 22 schools

B1G West
Cal
Illinois
Iowa
Minnesota
Nebraska
Oregon
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Wisconsin

B1G East
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
North Carolina
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Rutgers
Virginia


SEC = 20 schools

SEC West
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Texas
Texas A&M

SEC East
Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
Miami
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech


Big 12/Pac-12/ACC Merged Conference = 22 schools

Big 12/Pac-12/ACC Merged West
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Colorado
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Oregon State
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah
Washington State

Big 12/Pac-12/ACC Merged East
Boston College
Duke
Georgia Tech
Iowa State
Kansas
Louisville
NC State
Pitt
Syracuse
Wake Forest
West Virginia

If we ended up in that division there would be no reason we don't win it every year. Who would be our toughest competition... West Virginia??

 

[cyIclSoneU]

If we ended up in that division there would be no reason we don't win it every year. Who would be our toughest competition... West Virginia??

If this happened (it won't) I think a lot of things would look different around ISU because there would be a clear top tier of 43 schools (across two other conferences plus Notre Dame) that doesn't include Iowa State. We wouldn't be G5 but we wouldn't be P5 either - the sport would have re-arranged into three FBS tiers, with the conglomerated leftovers conference alone in the middle one, the B1G and SEC on top, and the G5 conferences still at the bottom.

So, impossible to say. If that was our division in 2021, we would be a big favorite to win it, and to win the 22-school conference.

 

[Cyclones1969]

I don't think there ever is only one super conference of 20-32 teams that forms a new division of football it shuts too many fans out of the process and gives them no desire to tune in to those games.

They probably will pay the B1G & SEC at levels much higher and try and pay 2-3 remaining leagues 33-50% of what the B1G/SEC get to try and keep those fans of the lower paid leagues "involved" to watch regular season nationally televised games, CFP and bowl games. I really hope all the fans of leagues not the SEC don't watch a single SEC game and maybe the B1G to a lesser extent also to send a message.

Is there anything the remaining leagues can do to get closer to 70-80% of revenues? I kind of doubt a ACC or PAC with B12 additions gets to 70/80% but would each of those leagues providing live content on primetime weeknights maybe even Tuesday & Wed. nights besides Thur. & Fri each week help? What would really suck is late night weekday games for fans but would that provide value to the networks? The games wouldn't have competition and would give exposure even if its on a different night. If ESPN is paying to move B12 to the PAC to free up OU & UT next year, the extra content of 4-6 schools help fill weeknights and even late night Saturday games(get ready for it if there is a move).

You’re getting your big 10 talking points mixed up. Either conferences matter, or they don’t.

So with conference deregulation to only schools that matter, you are literally saying that schools like Iowa, the Indiana schools, of course Rutgers, will all be on the outside looking in as well.

 

[Win5002]

You’re getting your big 10 talking points mixed up. Either conferences matter, or they don’t.

So with conference deregulation to only schools that matter, you are literally saying that schools like Iowa, the Indiana schools, of course Rutgers, will all be on the outside looking in as well.

Conference deregulation is not about limiting conferences to certain teams. Conference deregulation is conferences get to choose how their standings are set up as divisions, pods or a single set of standings, and how they schedule and determine their conference champion.

Your confusing what conference deregulation is.

 

[Cyclones1969]

Conference deregulation is not about limiting conferences to certain teams. Conference deregulation is conferences get to choose how their standings are set up as divisions, pods or a single set of standings, and how they schedule and determine their conference champion.

Your confusing what conference deregulation is.

So if conferences aren’t limited to teams, what’s to stop Ohio State, and other brand schools join ESPN’s brand?

And whats to Keep schools that offer nothing to the overall product included?

 

[JCity]

After reading all these posts, I have come to the conclusion that nobody knows what the f…k is going to happen. It’s all pure speculation.

I sure hope you reached that conclusion before reading them all

 

[Win5002]

So if conferences aren’t limited to teams, what’s to stop Ohio State, and other brand schools join ESPN’s brand?

And whats to Keep schools that offer nothing to the overall product included?

They just fit in the B1G geographically, academically, historically. The B1G will make similar money to the SEC.

Why would they leave?

The closest thing to a reason I could give you was the B1G's response to covid last year, and it sounds like that may have been a factor in OU & UT's decision to choose the SEC and not the B1G.

 

[Cyclones1969]

They just fit in the B1G geographically, academically, historically. The B1G will make similar money to the SEC.

Why would they leave?

The closest thing to a reason I could give you was the B1G's response to covid last year, and it sounds like that may have been a factor in OU & UT's decision to choose the SEC and not the B1G.

I don’t think geography and academics mean what it did previously.

they run the big 10, there can be no question about that. They call the shots. And they’re ok right now with having an easy road to the playoffs, and more dollars than almost anyone.

but if teams start catching and passing them it will get interesting. again t shirt fans don’t care about the physics department.

the rationale is the same as it is for usc, just on a larger scale. Ohio State is lucky enough they have a strong leader in gene smith. He stops the dysfunction that’s plagued places like Texas and usc.

It will be interesting how much they need when it comes time to do TV contacts.

 

[Cloneon]

With $ that networks are paying, probably 10 conference game becomes norm for all P5. But would not surprise me to see a 13th game added eventually, with 11 conference games.

Especially if ESPN & FOX become aligned with conferences.

One could easily argue, the financial state of the current contracts 'forced' the maneuver by ESPN. They were bleeding $$$. It's not uncommon when large companies start to trend down against better, smaller competition, they seek to buy that competition. This is not all that different.