Iowa State Uniform Discussions (update: new basketball unis)

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View attachment 74604 View attachment 74605 View attachment 74606 I really like the red/current gold collar on white jersey that we have now. I think it should stay if they don't do stripes or adopt the dark red stripe for cardinal pant.

I also really like a 2nd collar option, 2-tone red, for white jersey. This might be considered strongly if they do the C/G pant/helmet stripes (white uni) and gold stripe cardinal pant. I looks great but will only work best if they adopt stripes.
The Oklahoma game will forever make me root for the w/w/c combo

I like the all red collar better. Looks cleaner.
 

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The Oklahoma game will forever make me root for the w/w/c combo

I like the all red collar better. Looks cleaner.
Thankyou for your preference. I think I like the 2-tone red collar better also, but only on my dipictions. What they will do who knows? The red collar will work very well if they adopt gold pant stripes (and make the changes or atleast some good changes in the jersey, maybe like I suggest? One change dovetalis into another). Will that happen? I don't know. I don't think they want outside help which is a shame.
 
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Who knows? Maybe they will come up with some really cool and needed changes this year or next.
 

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The Oklahoma game will forever make me root for the w/w/c combo

I like the all red collar better. Looks cleaner.
Here are two of our main looks, Home and Away, with the gold stripe (a new one here), and a 2-tone red collar on the w/w/c. Looks great with the pant and helmet stripe! CyUni 2022 c1 3Pnt3 Sh3 CurYelNum rwbY 28- r r r RdfceRRB RdS f5ce31.png CyUni 2022 b4 RdCol Pnt3 HelStr3 Sh3 23- w w r RdIStRdfceWR WtS.png
 
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View attachment 73563 View attachment 73564 View attachment 73565 Is this pretty close? Three variations. I've got another white pant and helmet stripe (other than the old one I had) if you want o see. I like this one best (other than the one I posted a couple days ago). This one has the most yellow in the middle. Solid yellow/gold in the middle (stripe) doesn't look as good or go with other combos as well IMO. I reserve the right to change my opinion though, ha.
Could we get the first with a yellow face mask and without the yellow in the orrnado? Also the nado facing the same way on both sides. I think that’s perfection lol
 

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Could we get the first with a yellow face mask and without the yellow in the orrnado? Also the nado facing the same way on both sides. I think that’s perfection lol
I did promise u the Ornado w white between the segments. I'll try to get to that. Right now I'm doing some other things so not working on the Ornado anymore, but will get back to some new uni ideas soon, if time.
 

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I'm so done with the black helmets and black pants with cardinal tops. Gross, ugly look. They look like they're wearing bowling balls on their heads to me.

They are both fine with the white or black tops.
You are referring to b/c/c mostly here? I don't think we've ever done a b/c/b or a c/b/b.

I know Campbell likes black. I assume he still likes the b/c/c, afterall we used that look in the CampingWorldBowl. I am assuming he wants to continue the b/c/c in future. It might be hard to justify using the black helmet only once/year with the all-black b/b/b (although we did do b/b/b 2x last year, arrg) so he is using it in that combo to get some mileage out of it.

Our uniforms need something more to blend different combos that are used. I have been trying to do that with my examples, but I don't count. It's what they do that matters!

I have to say I did not like the b/c/c (nor the w/c/c) as much in year two as I did in first year of the current unis. For the black helmet, last year, there was no black collar to match or blend the helmet and shoes. Perfect example of no blending or accent colors, a problem w this uniform.
 

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You are referring to b/c/c mostly here? I don't think we've ever done a b/c/b or a c/b/b.

I know Campbell likes black. I assume he still likes the b/c/c, afterall we used that look in the CampingWorldBowl. I am assuming he wants to continue the b/c/c in future. It might be hard to justify using the black helmet only once/year with the all-black b/b/b (although we did do b/b/b 2x last year, arrg) so he is using it in that combo to get some mileage out of it.

Our uniforms need something more to blend different combos that are used. I have been trying to do that with my examples, but I don't count. It's what they do that matters!

I have to say I did not like the b/c/c (nor the w/c/c) as much in year two as I did in first year of the current unis. For the black helmet, last year, there was no black collar to match or blend the helmet and shoes. Perfect example of no blending or accent colors, a problem w this uniform.
I am referring to b/c/c, yes, the Camping World Bowl ensemble. I think it's ugly, and you have pinpointed it being the blending. The blank stands out and looks silly, makes the players look like they have large bowling balls on their heads. Black on collars, borders of shoulder pads or numbers, I'm no design expert. I just know it didn't look right to me.
 

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I am referring to b/c/c, yes, the Camping World Bowl ensemble. I think it's ugly, and you have pinpointed it being the blending. The blank stands out and looks silly, makes the players look like they have large bowling balls on their heads. Black on collars, borders of shoulder pads or numbers, I'm no design expert. I just know it didn't look right to me.
You're no design expert, neither am I. Yet even we can see the problem(s). Makes you wonder what design expert they are using?
 

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Iowa State has always been a step behind in design, design potential, color scheme, etc. in terms of their uniforms. Shame really as we have a great design college. We should utilize them more, IMO, then pitch whatever design ideas to Nike.

Look at what OSU (Okie St) is doing with their unis this year. They seem to be one school that is usually a step ahead in the design/uniform game.


Maybe we need a new Nike designer?
 

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Iowa State has always been a step behind in design, design potential, color scheme, etc. in terms of their uniforms. Shame really as we have a great design college. We should utilize them more, IMO, then pitch whatever design ideas to Nike.

Look at what OSU (Okie St) is doing with their unis this year. They seem to be one school that is usually a step ahead in the design/uniform game.


Maybe we need a new Nike designer?


I think it's a matter of national profile. It's very noticeable in basketball. The blue bloods all get slicker designs, more throwbacks and more alternates. Then there's a second tier that get what the blue bloods had 1-2 years earlier.

If we ever get to the point where we're competing for higher-tier bowls in football, we'll start seeing higher quality unis from Nike. Right now we're getting the 3rd-tier treatment at best. Looks like this season's unis are exactly the same as last season. Usually there are some minor details (usually the number font) that get updated.

We really need to upgrade the black unis. They were OK two seasons ago against WVU, but they need another element in 2020. A high quality throwback would be nice, too. One thing about changing our logo every two years in the past is we have a lot of retro ideas to work with.
 

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Iowa State has always been a step behind in design, design potential, color scheme, etc. in terms of their uniforms. Shame really as we have a great design college. We should utilize them more, IMO, then pitch whatever design ideas to Nike.

Look at what OSU (Okie St) is doing with their unis this year. They seem to be one school that is usually a step ahead in the design/uniform game.


Maybe we need a new Nike designer?

Do we have much of a choice in uniform, or limited to what Nike decides? Also has anyone ever asked CMC why he prefers black to ISU c&g?
 
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I think it's a matter of national profile. It's very noticeable in basketball. The blue bloods all get slicker designs, more throwbacks and more alternates. Then there's a second tier that get what the blue bloods had 1-2 years earlier.

If we ever get to the point where we're competing for higher-tier bowls in football, we'll start seeing higher quality unis from Nike. Right now we're getting the 3rd-tier treatment at best. Looks like this season's unis are exactly the same as last season. Usually there are some minor details (usually the number font) that get updated.

We really need to upgrade the black unis. They were OK two seasons ago against WVU, but they need another element in 2020. A high quality throwback would be nice, too. One thing about changing our logo every two years in the past is we have a lot of retro ideas to work with.
Yeah you're probably right about the 2nd and 3rd tier treatment from Nike. Hopefully it won't be much longer that ISU can get some better uniform design treatment from Nike. Campbell after all is getting National respect and Pub, and the program is building.

But it has to start with us. We have to request something new or better from Nike and are we even doing that? Who knows. It's not like all the Blue bloods have Nike busy every year. They rarely change much or anything to their classic uni/brand.
 

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Could we get the first with a yellow face mask and without the yellow in the orrnado? Also the nado facing the same way on both sides. I think that’s perfection lol
..."the first": I'm glad somebody (you) asked for a yellow or gold facemask. I haven't done that yet and I really can't remember the last time we had a gold facemask? I don't think we ever have. Atleast not based on this..
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I started fooling around with it, gold face, and I'll have something in retro '70's gold, and also in @Kagavi gold, maybe in a day or two. It looks pretty good. For Kagavi's classic gold see here: http://www.kagavi.com/choosing-jack-trice-yellow-or-classic-gold/
 
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Could we get the first with a yellow face mask and without the yellow in the orrnado? Also the nado facing the same way on both sides. I think that’s perfection lol
Cy37, from your post #3989.
CyUni 1996 c9 A1 Pnt9 GoldFce ybW 42- w r w RdWtOrCyG7bfceWR WtS.png CyUni 1996 c9 A1 Pnt9 HelStr GoldFce ybW 42- w r w RdWtOrCyG7bfceWR WtS.png I think we could find a place for a gold facemask on occasion. I used a darker shade of the retro '70's gold. Although I like a stripe on white helmet, looks great, I think I prefer the cleaner no-stripe on the white lid. Looks less cluttered, would be easier to maintain, and would work best when switching white helmet to w/b/w combo, and certain other combos.
 

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Also the nado facing the same way on both sides. I think that’s perfection lol
I've spent a little more time on the "Ornado" the past few days.

What you're asking for is something I've struggled w/ also. Should you have the Ornado be a mirror-image, Rt side vs. Lt. on the helmet, or should you place it so it looks the same whether looking at the Rt. or Lt. side of the helmet?

In the first case the look is symmetrical, but the left side of the helmet just looks odd, out of place. We could get used to it but we don't usually see it this way. CyUni 1996 c9 A1 Pnt9 GoldFce ybW 42- w r w SymOrCyBG7bfceWR WtS.png In the second case, having the Ornado look relatively the same on both sides looks like this. CyUni 1996 c9 A1 Pnt9 GoldFce ybW 42- w r w AsymRdWtOrCyBG7bfceWR WtS.png But it is not symmetrical. It might look a little odd, imbalanced from the front, I don't know. And I took the liberty to turn the tail to the rear, on the right side of the helmet. I have to say I like the second case/layout better.

Here's a pic/post from @Kagavi, which I love. Cyclone OrrCyclone ISU v OU 2017 Kagavi.jpg Which layout of the Ornado on the helmet is this, one or two above?
 
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