Iowa State ranked best college in the state by Time
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I'll definitely take a hoks word when it comes to talking up schools that they didn't attend.
It equates to a completely different level of student studying at Grinnell vs. Mount Mercy. Whether you think that has merit or not isn't my problem. But on a list that ranks schools, I'd think it has a little merit.
To me, "liberal arts" education has been devalued. People don't care as much about liberal arts as they used to. Obviously, that mirrors the job market, as liberal arts type jobs just don't pay as much as STEM and Business. ISU is perfectly situated to meet the needs of students today, which is why it surpassed iowa in enrollment and keeps growing.
Personally, I don't know why anyone would pay extra to go to one of those small private schools. Grinnell may be the best private school in the state, but ISU (and iowa) are superior to it in just about every way.
Obviously Time prepared separate lists for large public universities and private liberal arts colleges. This does not prevent Hawk Grinnell deflection.
some people want small. some want large. some want a campustown. others want to live in dorms for 4 years.
is grinnell academically superior to iowa state? maybe percentage-wise they have smarter students but i doubt grinnell puts out nearly the body of research iowa state does as a whole.
is grinnell academically superior to iowa state? maybe percentage-wise they have smarter students but i doubt grinnell puts out nearly the body of research iowa state does as a whole.
And at a bargain - only 18k (or 1.66x cost) a year in tuition difference between the two.
Yeah, there's no way. Most of the Agricultural and Engineering professors at Iowa State are there more for the research aspect rather than their teaching ability.
Tuition at Grinnell is also over 6 times as much as ISU but who's counting?
Hold the phone brother, you can do anything at Grinnell you can at UI. Rank goes like this;
#1 ISU
#2 Grinnell
#? AIB Iowa City
Obviously it depends on what you're after. Most school rankings are a joke anyways. If I want to go into engineering, design, vet med, ag science, etc., ISU is the best school in the state. UI has its programs that are stronger. For some people having a degree from an elite private lib arts college is their path to top grad schools. Arguing whether Harvard or Princeton is better, or Wisconsin or Illinois, etc, is dumb because they're so close. But Grinnell and Mount Mercy aren't even in the same stratosphere.
Depends on what you're ranking them on. Your ridiculous fallacy or actual results. If you honestly think turning high ACT scores into useless liberal arts degrees is what's most important, then I guess I can see your point.
Actually it is your problem, you're the one for some reason trying to tout the greatness of Grinell. Nobody cares, it's like touting the University of Montana.
Well, take a look at the graduate schools Grinnell alums are accepted into every year and compare. Those "useless" liberal arts degrees do come in a little handy. If you don't think graduate degrees from Ivies lead to higher paying job offers, we'll just agree to disagree.
What are the outcomes of the students at each university since you know higher education so well? Job placement, average annual earnings, grad school placement, grant acquisition? These are the important parts of a college education, not how well your entrants did on one test. But you knew that Mr. Higher Education?
