Iowa Football Recruiting

theiacowtipper

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I mean Kirk has been the coach for 20 years of a pretty solid Hawkeye program. Since Campbell has been here he's won 19 games. Four years combined before that Iowa State only won 14 games. Campbell did not walk into a gold mine here. He was a successful coach in the MAC, but it's not like he was going to come into Iowa State and be able to convince many 4 and 5 star players to want to come here right away. No one believed he could build this program into a Big 12 contender, and he's proven many people wrong. He's also done it in 3 years with okay to pretty good recruiting classes. Imagine what will happen with pretty good to really good recruiting classes...

Evidence that he can pull pretty good to really good recruiting classes?
 

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Evidence that he can pull pretty good to really good recruiting classes?
It all depends on how you define good to really good? Coach Campbell is bringing in the highest rated recruiting class in history. Each year it's gotten better. Top to bottom is it ever going to be filled with 4 and 5 stars? No, but he'll be able to get a some, just like Iowa has. Iowa isn't loaded top to bottom with blue chip talent either. But they do a good job of getting the most out of the guys they have, and I think Coach Campbell and Iowa State are starting to do that as well. I'd say for this upcoming year with the guys that we have, that's a pretty good class. Getting two top 25 RB's for a school like Iowa State is pretty impressive.
 
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No, it is not, but kirk could not talk about it, because he can not if a student of the university is involved. That is a university deal, not an AD or coach deal. It is literally a law. It is the privacy law for students. No one is allowed to comment on such deals until an incident is resolved. If a person was encouraged to not press charges. It may be because they wanted to have the university do the investigation? This is not hard to understand, except for you for some reason.

Who asked him to talk to the press? They asked him to help their daughter, who was raped by 2 of his players in an unoccupied room.

Do you think the right response is to send players in there to clean it up and throw stuff away?
 

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So regarding the argument on who's wide receivers have been better / better recruits between ISU's and Iowa's since Matt Campbell has been head coach, I thought I'd just drop in some numbers based on pure production, not just recruiting. Also, each year, the 4th most productive WR on Iowa State would've been on Iowa's top 3 and each year Iowa's 4th most productive WR never had more than 60 yards the entire year.

Top 3 WR for Iowa
2018: Nick Easley - 494, Brandon Smith - 361, Imir Smith-Marsette - 361
2017: Nick Easley - 530, Matt Vandeburg - 384, Imir Smith-Marsette - 187
2016: Riley McCarron - 517, J. Smith - 314, Matt Vandeburg - 284

Top 3 WR for Iowa State
2018: Hakeem Butler - 1381, Tarique Milton - 417, Deshaunte Jones - 366
2017: Allen Lazard - 941, Hakeem Butler - 697, Marchie Murdock - 513
2016: Allen Lazard - 1081, Deshaunte Jones - 536, Dandre Daley - 406

If anyone wants to say that's not fair because Allen Lazard wasn't a CMC recruit: Allen Lazard was coming to Iowa State regardless of who the coach was at the time.
 
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So regarding the argument on who's wide receivers have been better / better recruits between ISU's and Iowa's since Matt Campbell has been head coach, I thought I'd just drop in some numbers based on pure production, not just recruiting. Also, each year, the 4th most productive WR on Iowa State would've been on Iowa's top 3 and each year Iowa's 4th most productive WR never had more than 60 yards the entire year.

Top 3 WR for Iowa
2018: Nick Easley - 494, Brandon Smith - 361, Imir Smith-Marsette - 361
2017: Nick Easley - 530, Matt Vandeburg - 384, Imir Smith-Marsette - 187
2016: Riley McCarron - 517, J. Smith - 314, Matt Vandeburg - 284

Top 3 WR for Iowa State
2018: Hakeem Butler - 1381, Tarique Milton - 417, Deshaunte Jones - 366
2017: Allen Lazard - 941, Hakeem Butler - 697, Marchie Murdock - 513
2016: Allen Lazard - 1081, Deshaunte Jones - 536, Dandre Daley - 406

If anyone wants to say that's not fair because Allen Lazard wasn't a CMC recruit: Allen Lazard was coming to Iowa State regardless of who the coach was at the time.

Let's not forget we've played a much tougher schedule all those years too
 

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Let's not forget that Easley was going to walk on at Iowa State until he realized that he probably wasn't going to see the field and that the Iowa WR core was terrible...
Yes Easley could've worked his way to see some minutes and contribute at Iowa State but him going to Iowa allowed him a better avenue to see the field. Based off of every number, he's been their best WR by far the last two years.
 

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KF's gotten a top-10 finish every 4 years on average.
He had 3 top 10 finishes in a row (2002, 2003, 2004) which is very impressive but then he's finished in the top 10 only two more times in the last 15 years. Which again is still impressive but it's not a quarterly thing for the Hawkeyes to be in the top 10 like you're trying to spin it.
 
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