Tono? He had previously been at Independence but left there due to cultural (racist) issues. His sister lives in Iowa City and especially now with Mitch Moore that is why they chose City High.
IHSAA 2023 Boys Basketball Tournament
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Yeah, I would assume the ultimate destination for DCG and Norwalk would be the CIML with the other big suburban schools. Just a matter of how long before they would want to take that jump. Both are 4A now, but are still quite a bit smaller than Urbandale, which is the smallest of the CIML schools.
Is the complaint here that they should be showing the game itself up on the big screen? Because it would appear most anyone in that crowd could get as close as they want to the action without craning their neck to look up at the screen.
Also, I have a hard time believing the girls union would leave revenue on the table if they could sell that ad space themselves.
I’ve only been to a couple tournaments there but it always seemed like that middle thing was for stats and for ads/crowd interaction stuff? Haven’t been there since the mid ‘10’s so maybe they’ve already replaced it a couple times.
They need about a 60% enrollment jump to get to urbandale and need to double to get to the next biggest CIML. There is certainly the trajectory to get there but it will be awhile. I would actually like urbandale to leave CIML for little hawkeye and have a conference with indianola, norwalk, urbandale, DCG and Pella in it. That would be fun.
Wait until someone tells him that the multimedia stuff isn't even the IHSAA's call.
I think they may be closer than that. From the BEDS this year on ighsau here they are against the 3 smallest CIML schools.
Waukee 1245
Dowling 1030
Urbandale 977
Norwalk 780
DCG 738
That would put Norwalk only 25% from catching Urbandale and Dowling. Now granted there is a big jump from Urbandale to Waukee. And Dowling is more than just an enrollment number. So it really comes down to how quickly they want to jump. If they would get in there when they near Urbandale that may not be too far off. If they would rather get closer to Waukee that is a much longer time frame.
Here is quick reference of the top 60 schools (grades 9,10,11) for this year.
For the boys state basketball tournament, the top 48 are class 4A.
I would say there is a lot of enrollment to catch up on for Norwalk, DCG, Bondurant and North Polk, but at the same time, all of those towns are installing new neighborhoods every 25 mins. So if the town remains on that trajectory and their is no crash in the next 10 years, I could see those schools growing a lot.
especially given that most of the schools from 30-50 range are stagnant communities.
I also wouldn't doubt if the IHSAA does something similar to the girls and create a 5A which then would slide some schools down a bit.
I guess it also depends on the sport and classes they create.
Soccer modified the class sizes this year. So teams like urbandale are now in 3A Soccer.
Soccer:
For the boys state basketball tournament, the top 48 are class 4A.
I would say there is a lot of enrollment to catch up on for Norwalk, DCG, Bondurant and North Polk, but at the same time, all of those towns are installing new neighborhoods every 25 mins. So if the town remains on that trajectory and their is no crash in the next 10 years, I could see those schools growing a lot.
especially given that most of the schools from 30-50 range are stagnant communities.
I also wouldn't doubt if the IHSAA does something similar to the girls and create a 5A which then would slide some schools down a bit.
I guess it also depends on the sport and classes they create.
Soccer modified the class sizes this year. So teams like urbandale are now in 3A Soccer.
Soccer:
- Class 4A: Largest 36 schools
- Class 3A: Next 40 schools
- Class 2A: Next 48 schools
- Class 1A: Remaining schools
| 1 | Valley, West Des Moines | 2271 |
| 2 | Southeast Polk | 1801 |
| 3 | Johnston | 1752 |
| 4 | Des Moines, Lincoln | 1740 |
| 5 | Linn-Mar, Marion | 1733 |
| 6 | Des Moines, East | 1502 |
| 7 | Des Moines, Roosevelt | 1480 |
| 8 | Ankeny Centennial | 1423 |
| 9 | Northwest, Waukee | 1372 |
| 10 | Waterloo, West | 1348 |
| 11 | Ankeny | 1337 |
| 12 | Prairie, Cedar Rapids | 1334 |
| 13 | Cedar Falls | 1311 |
| 14 | Cedar Rapids, Kennedy | 1296 |
| 15 | Pleasant Valley | 1264 |
| 16 | Waukee | 1245 |
| 17 | Dubuque, Hempstead | 1237 |
| 18 | Sioux City, North | 1230 |
| 19 | Cedar Rapids, Jefferson | 1189 |
| 20 | Davenport, Central | 1182 |
| 21 | Iowa City, City High | 1154 |
| 22 | Bettendorf | 1150 |
| 23 | Davenport, West | 1145 |
| 24 | Marshalltown | 1132 |
| 25 | Muscatine | 1132 |
| 26 | Sioux City, East | 1106 |
| 27 | Iowa City, West | 1096 |
| 28 | Dubuque, Senior | 1078 |
| 29 | Ottumwa | 1071 |
| 30 | Ames | 1054 |
| 31 | Des Moines, North | 1040 |
| 32 | Council Bluffs, Abraham Lincoln | 1031 |
| 33 | Dowling Catholic, West Des Moines | 1030 |
| 34 | Davenport, North | 1022 |
| 35 | Sioux City, West | 981 |
| 36 | Cedar Rapids, Washington | 978 |
| 37 | Urbandale | 977 |
| 38 | Council Bluffs, Thomas Jefferson | 903 |
| 39 | Iowa City, Liberty | 861 |
| 40 | Waterloo, East | 831 |
| 41 | Indianola | 825 |
| 42 | Burlington | 800 |
| 43 | Fort Dodge | 799 |
| 44 | North Scott, Eldridge | 786 |
| 45 | Norwalk | 780 |
| 46 | Mason City | 761 |
| 47 | Clinton | 757 |
| 48 | Dallas Center-Grimes | 738 |
| 49 | Epworth, Western Dubuque | 721 |
| 50 | Des Moines, Hoover | 681 |
| 51 | Lewis Central | 674 |
| 52 | Newton | 664 |
| 53 | Waverly-Shell Rock | 596 |
| 54 | Denison-Schleswig | 593 |
| 55 | Bondurant-Farrar | 563 |
| 56 | Spencer | 559 |
| 57 | Pella | 558 |
| 58 | Carlisle | 556 |
| 59 | Storm Lake | 550 |
| 60 | Clear Creek-Amana | 544 |
| 61 | LeMars | 539 |
| 62 | Marion | 530 |
| 63 | Boone | 527 |
| 64 | North Polk, Alleman | 467 |
Tuesdays Games:
10:30—#2 Roland-Story vs. #7 Kuemper, Carroll
12:15—#3 Western Christian, Hull vs. #6 Monticello
Class 3A Quarterfinals
2:00—#1 Bondurant-Farrar vs. #8 Algona
3:45—#4 Newton vs. #5 North Polk
5:30—#3 Marion vs. #6 Bishop Heelan, Sioux City
7:15—#2 Xavier, Cedar Rapids vs. #7 Des Moines, Hoover
Tuesday, March 7
Class 2A Quarterfinals10:30—#2 Roland-Story vs. #7 Kuemper, Carroll
12:15—#3 Western Christian, Hull vs. #6 Monticello
Class 3A Quarterfinals
2:00—#1 Bondurant-Farrar vs. #8 Algona
3:45—#4 Newton vs. #5 North Polk
5:30—#3 Marion vs. #6 Bishop Heelan, Sioux City
7:15—#2 Xavier, Cedar Rapids vs. #7 Des Moines, Hoover
KidSilverhair
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I have no problem with Tono going to school wherever he and his parents think is best (I worked with his dad for many years, that’s how I know he’s from Vinton - I also umpired his youth baseball team a couple of times). I only brought him up as an example of how it’s not just private schools who don’t have hard & fast attendance areas.
He probably assumed it because the Ihsaa seems to step on their junk at every turn. I think we may be the only state that has separate boys and girls associations and I fully understand why with the Ihsaa’s incompetence.
I appreciate what everyone does to keep sports going, but why is it that Iowa is the only state that maintains separate governing bodies for boys' and girls' athletics?
The only thing I can think of is there would be duplication leadership/directors, etc. Which means someone would have to go or take demotions.
just makes no sense that we are the only state to do this.
Sure, but only as long as open enrollment is not an option for any school in Iowa.
At this point this is it.
One thing about it that annoys me about 2 associations is the fact you have to pay both associations to register as a an official to do both boys and girls events. Soccer, basketball, track and field, just to name a few, have the same exact rules, but because we have 2 separate associations we have to pay twice. It’s so stupid. I wouldn’t care if Iowa had 2 otherwise.
Same here! However, I really enjoyed the Marion kids I ran with back in the day! Also...they are doing a great job of upgrading their athletic facilities so good for them!
I would also add there have been some historical difference in rules. Seems like forever the girls coach for basketball could stand up on the sideline coaching, but the boys coach had to remain seated or would get a technical. I could see where that could be a pain for an official.
Yeah they are finally doing a good job of investing in their facilities across the district. Over the last decade or so they have built a new elementary to replace an aging one, renovated/added on to the middle school and high school and as of this year built a new stadium and I think are building a new elementary where the old stadium was.
Prior to that it had been decades without any real investment. They still have a ways to go in some areas (fine arts) but it is good to see.
That all being said due to the demographic of their district they have a limited tax base. Almost all residential and as noted above nothing high dollar, little business and no industry.
I was the same way. I grew up in a small town and I played and followed a lot of high school sports. I thought I knew most schools but always assumed Marion = Linn Mar. It was only when I moved to the Cedar Rapids area that I figured out they were actually two different schools.
