I figured there were only 2-3 options and that was most likely with the merger.
How to negotiate starting salary (mega-corps)?
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I figured there were only 2-3 options and that was most likely with the merger.
At my mega-corp (30,000 global employees) this is absolutely the case. Hiring managers want to pay more to get quality candidates, but are hamstrung by HR/corporate salary grade limits. The biggest thing is to get into the right salary grade. I'd say it's better to be at the bottom of a higher grade than the top of a lower grade because it leaves more room for rapid advancement. When you do good work, the hiring manager can often give you an increase as long as it's within the same grade. Its "harder" to bump grades because they need more objective "proof" that you've earned it.
I'd come at them saying you should be in their highest technical/scientific salary grade. PhD with relevant industry experience is tough to find. At our place, we have engineers (thousands), senior engineers (hundreds) and principle engineers (dozens). You would fall into that principle engineer for us, and they have earning potential similar to section managers (oversee multiple departments) and assistant chief engineers.
All I see is Phd+ag+growing. I think you know where I’m going with this. Let’s bring the streets and the classroom together and make some real ******* money.
He's also native to the US. Guarantee that's part of why he's field facing. That's a trifecta. PhD, experience, US born.
I was talking about starting an organic eggplant farm but OK!
How long has the job been open? If it has been a while then you are going to be worth more because they cant find anyone else like you.
Do they have a busy season? If so they might be looking to get the position filled asap and pay a little more to do that.
Do they have a busy season? If so they might be looking to get the position filled asap and pay a little more to do that.
I think your first sentence is true. The company is trying to get the best deal they can.
What I am referring to is the imbalance playing field between a company and an employee. People have been trained to do certain things at a company because its considered professional. Things like don't share you salary, give two weeks notice prior to quitting, work extra hours, etc. But it's perfectly acceptable for a company to terminate/lay off someone without notice, or underpay you compared to your co-workers (as @cowgirl836 experienced).
Employees need to realize that your relationship with a company needs to be mutually beneficial to both parties. That relationship is exchange for an employees time to a company for money. But more often than not, what may start as a mutually beneficial relationship ends up benefiting the company more than the employee. People need to treat themselves in their career to how a company would in its own business dealings. Any business will walk away if they felt a business deal was not beneficial to themselves. And it's hard, but the employee needs to either speak up or terminate their relationship with their employer once it's no longer mutually beneficial. I've personally done this twice.
I apologize for derailing this thread. /vent.
so the position has been open for a while. and they weren't satisfied with the candidate pool during the first round of interviews (this was said during the interview).
I applied and had an email from the manager in like 3 hours. interviewed the next day
Sounds like your 100k needs to be bumped up then.
Where is this job located? The cost of living is a huge factor into your salary. But even for low cost of living locations, $100k feels extremely low for your level of education especially considering you also have experience.
They want the (ph)D.
its a 5 state area with the majority of the action in southern michigan, northern indiana, northern ohio.
I grew up VERY poor in western iowa. so thats why 100k sounds like a million dollars to me
I'd start at $125-$135k. If they like you as a candidate they won't eliminate you, they'll simply come back and say, "our offer is $XYZ". No one is walking away from a desired candidate because the candidate asked for a few grand more than HR was willing to pay.
Also how did they react / body language when you said at least $100k? Did they bat an eye?
Especially when they're one failed round in the hole
At this point, if you are offered the job, and you want to ask for more money, you will need to justify it by saying 'after learning more about the role and responsibilities, I think I would need $XXXXXX to accept.'
To live in northern Indiana, Ohio, and Michigan I would need 30k more
Another kid in daycare it'll feel pedestrian
but seriously, that's absolutely the sandbox you should be playing in.
