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ESPN, Fox Open Discussions for Next Big 12 Deal
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ESPN needs the Big 12 for basketball just as much as football That's a huge gem in the ESPN crown especially with the Big 12's challenges with the SEC and Big East
I think FOX/NBC/CBS would possibly pay for a Foursome of FSU, Miami, Clemson, Ga. Tech. So ESPN wouldn't be forced to pay for those increased revenues. ESPN could probably stomach just paying for UNC & VA over that same time period to keep them in their conference.
I think those ACC revenues include ACC Network which has done well the last couple of years. I believe the T1 & T2 revenue is always higher in the B12 but forecasters are increasing the ACC Network revenue that makes up the difference. What if the P3 was offered 45M revenue with the new deal starting in 2024 plus the old ACC Network now being rolled into the P3/B12 maybe called the Great America league or whatever. ESPN sponsors that network also and the network is marketed on a national basis since the league would be national.
I think the networks walk a fine line going forward with college sports. If you make everyone feel like a glorified G5 member national viewership declines quite a bit. On the other hand if you feel like a P2 light league fans may keep watching. It does no good to engineer more really good T1 content and good T2 content if you have pissed off a significant amount of the college viewers.
I don't see ND moving for anything. That being said, 10 am kickoffs wouldn't upset me one bit to have a consistent presence on OTA.
GoR money goes the conference. The school signs their media rights away to the conference. The Big12 didn’t sign a GoR until all those schools left. I could be wrong, but I think we were the first conference to sign one. Last I knew the SEC and B1G didn’t even have one but that may have changed since.
Where are you getting your CBS info.?
CBS again, is showing 4 MW Conf games total on CBS as national broadcasts for the entire season. They're showing 27 more on CBS Sports Network only over 13 weeks.
NBC's showing a B1G night game in prime time. Wouldn't it make sense to have a lead in to ND? I would think a 2:30 PM start would be preferable. It would put them directly in competition for the entire game with ABC's, FOX's and ESPN's games starting at that same time slot.
We don't know for certain if CBS or NBC is done with their college football inventory. My guess would be they're not.
There are open slots on both networks. The money they can make from broadcasting college football dwarfs something like a CSI re-run.
I could see them moving times by an hour if the $$ from NBC was right. Also it would make NBC a destination station on Saturdays for CFB, right now its an outlier unless ND has a great game scheduled or you're a ND fan.
Edit, meaning it's good for ND's brand if NBC is a destination for CFB. Their AD is on record saying the B1G on NBC was good for ND for those reasons.
What's so great about a 1:30 PM kickoff? An 11 AM lead in to a 2:30 PM kickoff gets them more viewers potentially.
I'm hoping the final deal ends up being good enough for Stewart Mandel to question the purpose and meaning of his life.
I don't necessarily disagree although I think Washington and Stanford are better fits than Oregon (for the B1G).
It wouldn’t shock me if they take all 4. Really just depends on what ESPN wants to pay to get into that late window for the B1G. ND could be saved for the next wave, when the ACC is raided.
Yes, only those two would have ability, I meant that CBS and NBC has been showing interest (being in the mix) and if ESPN/Fox wait, they may have competition from those two when it comes up.
If it's one or the other I would take UW over OR all day. It's a bigger market and better academic institutional fit. OR better hope 4 get in.
We’ve been losing optics in math challenged media since we moved down to 10 and others went to 14/15. 16 will be nice. When sec/b10 take their ACC teams we add some too.
Where do you think you’re going? Girl? Where do you think you’re going?What would be great about that would be you'd never see the same ad in a loop like 3 times in a row during a commercial break.
There was one cruise line ad on Pluto that they showed literally non-stop.
Does Big 12 w 4corner addition and other 4 need new brand? It’s only 25 years old and half the league would be new teams? If they add 4 acc down road even less “big 12”.
