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* He is familiar with Iowa State and the positives and negatives of being our coach.
<span style="color:red">I'm not really countering this point, because I guess I don't understand how this makes him better prepared for this job than anyone else.</span> <span style="color:blue">--I think knowing the difficulties of recruiting to ISU will help as well as just a famarlity with the state in terms of building relationships with fans and donors</span>
* He is a great X's and O's coach that stresses defense. Defense wins championships.
<span style="color:red">What championships has it won McDermott? He hasn't won anything. People seem to forget that his team folded last year.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- He won a conference championship at Wayne State, a tourney championship at UNI and was in the Sweet 16 at Wayne State.</span><span style="color:green">Let's be fair here. Wayne State is Division II. I will concede that he has won a title, if you will concede that Division II is lightyears ways away from the BIG XII. If you get one guy with DI talent on your team in DII (for whatever reason), you can dominate.</span>
* He assembled a quality coach staff very quickly.
<span style="color:red">How do you know it is a quality coaching staff? They might be, but none of them have a very impressive resume in my opinion.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- Prileou was an assitant at Wichita State and Marquette, 2 schools with recent success. TJ has some good juco and AAU contacts and the assitants from UNI took them to the NCAA's the last 3 years. Seems okay to me.</span><span style="color:green">I'm not saying they are terrible. I am saying that a juco/aau coach and a mid-major assistant are not that impressive.</span>
* Given the time and circumstances, McDermott did a good job of getting a team put together for next year. He found some good recruits and it sounds like he did everything possible to get the current players to stay.
<span style="color:red">Whether or not he did a good job is yet to be decided. He did a good job of giving out scholarship. We can't say he did a good job untill the season is over. I am worried that we are pinning all of our hopes for next year on a bunch of new guys that have never played D-I ball</span> <span style="color:blue">-- Obviously we are no different than any other team in the country in terms of new recruits. Two star and 3 star recruits given the timing of everything is a good start. </span><span style="color:green">It is not necessarily a good start. Even if he got the absolute best of what was available, they still aren't as good as the guys the rest of the Big XII got. It is like saying we got the fastest slow people. I'm not saying that the recruits he got were bad, but based on what I've seen and factoring in that they are spring signees, I am very worried.</span>
* His resume, look at what he did at UNI and Wayne State. He took programs that were down and after 2 years turned them into consistent winners.
<span style="color:red">I don't want to sound like a broken record, but he wasn't able to win championships at lower levels, what makes anyone think that he will do it at a higher level. I don't just want to win on a consistent basis (although I do wan't that obviously) I want to contend for and occasionally win conference titles and go beyond the first round of the NCAA tournament. The last two things are things McDermott has not shown to be capable of.</span> <span style="color:blue">--You do sound like a broken record that does not realize what McDermott has done in the past.</span><span style="color:green">DII does not equal DI much less high-major DI. I don't want to offend you but you sound like a broken record, constantly bringing up his success at Wayne State. That's like saying I could coach in college because I did a good job coaching my kid's little league team.</span>
* He is enjoyable and interesting to listen to.
<span style="color:red">You must have heard something I haven't. I haven't heard him speak too many times, but would never have characterized him as enjoyable or interesting to listen to. I'll have to try and catch his speaking live a few more times.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- I would not classify him as entertaining but I did enjoy watching the Living in Iowa segment and enjoy hearing him talk about basketball.</span><span style="color:green">Well, I guess that you enjoy different things than I do.</span>
* CHARACTER - I think this is the biggest plus of Greg McDermott. He has tremendous character. Living in Iowa on IPTV did a segment on him. He came across very humble and down to earth. On Deace's interview yesterday, Deace asked a question about Alex Thompson's maturity. McDermott's answer was basically his job was to develop and prepare young men for the rest of their lives. Basketball is his tool for doing that. From listening to his interview and learning more about him, I am incredibly impressed.
<span style="color:red">WM appeared to have tremendous character as well, and I still haven't seen anything to knock his character. There is the DI scheduling thing, but nothing has come from that and WM was very classy in his press conference after being fired. He said all of his players should stay at ISU and had nothing bad to say about the school or the administration that I can remember.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- This is where I really do not understand where you are going. I never mentioned anything about Morgan. I am talking about McDermott, the new ISU coach. If you are upset that Morgan is gone, why are you taking it out on McDermott? Pollard got rid of Morgan. </span><span style="color:green">I'm sorry I thought you were talking about why McDermott was a great choice as our coach. I was just commenting on Morgan our previous coach. Your last comments here are hilarious and way off-base. I am not upset over the firing of Morgan. I thought he should have gotten one more year, but I can accept that Pollard needed to make a change because of stuff I as an average fan could see behind the scenes. I just don't think that McDermott was the best option available for ISU. That is my opinion. Take it or leave it. I am not claiming to be 100% certain that I am right like many of the optomists here are. I feel the way I feel for the reasons I have stated. That is all. I find it very funny that I get attacked and called stupid for having an opinion, especially since I have what I consider pretty good points to back up my opinion.</span>
<span style="color:red">Your other points hold some merit, and I hope that you are right and that he will be the best thing since sliced bread, but as much as I hope for that, I just can't get excited about him as the coach of the cyclones. I am less excited about Cyclone basketball now than I have ever been. Even during the road loss streak, larrygate, etc.</span> <span style="color:blue">--This makes no sense to me at all. </span><span style="color:green">I am sorry that you have difficulty understanding the written word.</span>
<span style="color:red">To be fair McDermott seems to be going national in his recruiting efforts despite his early comments, and if he starts landing some big-time recruits (locally or nationally), or I see that Ross, Jiri and Jessan have all turned into monsters down low under his tutelage, I will start to be more excited and optomistic, but untill then, McDermott has a lot to prove to me.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- You did not actually believe McDermott was only going to recruit from the midwest or Iowa?</span><span style="color:green">I was going based on what McDermott himself said. Are you saying that I shouldn't believe the words coming out of his mouth? He still hasn't proved that he can bring in elite level talent, and the only guy that he has brought in that doesn't have midwest ties is McIntosh. And for the record, I don't care if he only recruits central iowa, as long as the players he brings in are quality BIX II material.</span>
<span style="color:blue">My final comment would be to evaluate McDermott fairly upon his credentials. Not based on if you think Morgan got a raw deal. That is the same thing a lot of people did to Morgan when he took over for LE.</span><span style="color:green">This comment of yours is just stupid. I don't care about WM anymore. You read that into my comments yourself. I care about the current state of the program and the current coach, and for the millionth time. I hope all of my concerns are baseless. I hope McDermott does wonderfully because that means good things for ISU, and if he is successful, I will have no problem admitting I was wrong.</span>
<span style="color:navy">Here is what I do not understand, every single positive thing that I or anyone else has to say about McDermott you reject. He has been on the job for 3 months and according to you has not done anything correct. How can a coach get to the level he has and be as incompetent as you claim? If you are okay with Morgan leaving and do not like McDermott, please list 3-5 coaches that Pollard should have hired instead.
I am not an eternal optimist about ISU sports. I think the football team will be 7-5 or 6-6 because that is what Mac is capable of doing. I look at McDermott and I see a guy who is capable of winning consistently at ISU. Time will prove me correct.</span>
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