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As long as Colorado and Nebraska are in our league, that will be four wins the next two years. We then can win 4 of 6 at Hilton on the remainder. And missouri could stioll be a mess. I see no worse than 8-8 in Big 12 for the next two years if the team hustles. Cupcake preseason and postseason is worth 9 wins also. 17 wins or more in each of next two years with good scheduling. Hope that Bradley game is a winner for us. 17 wins plus 8-8 means NIT or NCAA.

By 2009, NCAA is talking about increasing the field from 65 teams to 80 teams. Borderline teams will then get in.

What I just reiterated above is highly possible even if we are newbies and will take awhile to get our act together. Colorado lost 10 seniors plus Roby. Nebraska has lost 3 of their players who are leaving if Alex Mariks does not come back. Collier could not hire either one of two high school coaches to replace Spinelli, so he settled on Slim Owens, an uncle of Marcus walker, one of the players, as his new associate coach. Now that PJ officially walked, things are looking brighter in Ames than some have us to believe.

In 2009 we will be winning 20 a season and have the four 07 schollies playing well. Hang in there, Rashon....
 

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We can't go down from receiving no post season invitation. It can't can't get any worse than being blown out by Iona at home and losing to Fresno State at home. McDermott has proven to be a winner everywhere he has been so I don't know why we would doubt his ability to do it at ISU.
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I don't doubt that he could do it. I just don't believe it is a given that he will.
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I completely agree with you, it is not a given he will be successful. It is just a lot more fun to look at the success he had at basketball graveyards like Wayne State and UNI and dream about his possibilities at a big time school in the Big 12. If he fails, he fails, but until that happens as long as he is the coach at Iowa State he has my 100% support and the optimism that comes along with that.
 

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Melkor,

* He is familiar with Iowa State and the positives and negatives of being our coach.
<span style="color:red">I'm not really countering this point, because I guess I don't understand how this makes him better prepared for this job than anyone else.</span> <span style="color:blue">--I think knowing the difficulties of recruiting to ISU will help as well as just a famarlity with the state in terms of building relationships with fans and donors</span>

* He is a great X's and O's coach that stresses defense. Defense wins championships.
<span style="color:red">What championships has it won McDermott? He hasn't won anything. People seem to forget that his team folded last year.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- He won a conference championship at Wayne State, a tourney championship at UNI and was in the Sweet 16 at Wayne State.</span>

* He assembled a quality coach staff very quickly.
<span style="color:red">How do you know it is a quality coaching staff? They might be, but none of them have a very impressive resume in my opinion.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- Prileou was an assitant at Wichita State and Marquette, 2 schools with recent success. TJ has some good juco and AAU contacts and the assitants from UNI took them to the NCAA's the last 3 years. Seems okay to me.</span>

* Given the time and circumstances, McDermott did a good job of getting a team put together for next year. He found some good recruits and it sounds like he did everything possible to get the current players to stay.
<span style="color:red">Whether or not he did a good job is yet to be decided. He did a good job of giving out scholarship. We can't say he did a good job untill the season is over. I am worried that we are pinning all of our hopes for next year on a bunch of new guys that have never played D-I ball</span> <span style="color:blue">-- Obviously we are no different than any other team in the country in terms of new recruits. Two star and 3 star recruits given the timing of everything is a good start. </span>

* His resume, look at what he did at UNI and Wayne State. He took programs that were down and after 2 years turned them into consistent winners.
<span style="color:red">I don't want to sound like a broken record, but he wasn't able to win championships at lower levels, what makes anyone think that he will do it at a higher level. I don't just want to win on a consistent basis (although I do wan't that obviously) I want to contend for and occasionally win conference titles and go beyond the first round of the NCAA tournament. The last two things are things McDermott has not shown to be capable of.</span> <span style="color:blue">--You do sound like a broken record that does not realize what McDermott has done in the past.</span>

* He is enjoyable and interesting to listen to.
<span style="color:red">You must have heard something I haven't. I haven't heard him speak too many times, but would never have characterized him as enjoyable or interesting to listen to. I'll have to try and catch his speaking live a few more times.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- I would not classify him as entertaining but I did enjoy watching the Living in Iowa segment and enjoy hearing him talk about basketball.</span>

* CHARACTER - I think this is the biggest plus of Greg McDermott. He has tremendous character. Living in Iowa on IPTV did a segment on him. He came across very humble and down to earth. On Deace's interview yesterday, Deace asked a question about Alex Thompson's maturity. McDermott's answer was basically his job was to develop and prepare young men for the rest of their lives. Basketball is his tool for doing that. From listening to his interview and learning more about him, I am incredibly impressed.
<span style="color:red">WM appeared to have tremendous character as well, and I still haven't seen anything to knock his character. There is the DI scheduling thing, but nothing has come from that and WM was very classy in his press conference after being fired. He said all of his players should stay at ISU and had nothing bad to say about the school or the administration that I can remember.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- This is where I really do not understand where you are going. I never mentioned anything about Morgan. I am talking about McDermott, the new ISU coach. If you are upset that Morgan is gone, why are you taking it out on McDermott? Pollard got rid of Morgan. </span>

<span style="color:red">Your other points hold some merit, and I hope that you are right and that he will be the best thing since sliced bread, but as much as I hope for that, I just can't get excited about him as the coach of the cyclones. I am less excited about Cyclone basketball now than I have ever been. Even during the road loss streak, larrygate, etc.</span> <span style="color:blue">--This makes no sense to me at all. </span>

<span style="color:red">To be fair McDermott seems to be going national in his recruiting efforts despite his early comments, and if he starts landing some big-time recruits (locally or nationally), or I see that Ross, Jiri and Jessan have all turned into monsters down low under his tutelage, I will start to be more excited and optomistic, but untill then, McDermott has a lot to prove to me.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- You did not actually believe McDermott was only going to recruit from the midwest or Iowa?</span>

<span style="color:blue">My final comment would be to evaluate McDermott fairly upon his credentials. Not based on if you think Morgan got a raw deal. That is the same thing a lot of people did to Morgan when he took over for LE.</span>
 

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Should we just save this thread for a year from now?

That way we will have one season behind us with McD and can look at the cold hard facts about where he took us.

At this point, everything is sheer speculation...
 

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My post wasn't actually saying that we are going to do much better or better at all but to show others that we really werent that good. Proof was in the record. So yeah technically we could go down from 6-10 but we werent competing for anything special at least not a NCAA, NIT, or Big 12 Tournament.

The one question I have with the way are season ended.
Question: What would of been the difference if we would have been 1-15 in the big 12 last year or what if we are this year???
Answer: There would have been no difference last year or this year because neither teams would have been playing in the post season which I thought was the point.

Nothing good comes easy! We have the right guy in postion to lead Iowa State to consistant births to the NCAA! Time will only tell
 

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Should we just save this thread for a year from now?

That way we will have one season behind us with McD and can look at the cold hard facts about where he took us.

At this point, everything is sheer speculation...
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Just to clarify my point in the thread, I think McDermott was a great hire and will do great things at ISU. The bashing that Discombobulated has done in my opinion is a little ridiculous. Having said that, I think next year could be tough. A lot is riding on the development of the bigs and the new guards. I would label us a soild NIT team to just off the bubble. If things fall right, we can make the NCAA tourney.
 

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Melkor,

* He is familiar with Iowa State and the positives and negatives of being our coach.
<span style="color:red">I'm not really countering this point, because I guess I don't understand how this makes him better prepared for this job than anyone else.</span> <span style="color:blue">--I think knowing the difficulties of recruiting to ISU will help as well as just a famarlity with the state in terms of building relationships with fans and donors</span>

* He is a great X's and O's coach that stresses defense. Defense wins championships.
<span style="color:red">What championships has it won McDermott? He hasn't won anything. People seem to forget that his team folded last year.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- He won a conference championship at Wayne State, a tourney championship at UNI and was in the Sweet 16 at Wayne State.</span><span style="color:green">Let's be fair here. Wayne State is Division II. I will concede that he has won a title, if you will concede that Division II is lightyears ways away from the BIG XII. If you get one guy with DI talent on your team in DII (for whatever reason), you can dominate.</span>

* He assembled a quality coach staff very quickly.
<span style="color:red">How do you know it is a quality coaching staff? They might be, but none of them have a very impressive resume in my opinion.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- Prileou was an assitant at Wichita State and Marquette, 2 schools with recent success. TJ has some good juco and AAU contacts and the assitants from UNI took them to the NCAA's the last 3 years. Seems okay to me.</span><span style="color:green">I'm not saying they are terrible. I am saying that a juco/aau coach and a mid-major assistant are not that impressive.</span>

* Given the time and circumstances, McDermott did a good job of getting a team put together for next year. He found some good recruits and it sounds like he did everything possible to get the current players to stay.
<span style="color:red">Whether or not he did a good job is yet to be decided. He did a good job of giving out scholarship. We can't say he did a good job untill the season is over. I am worried that we are pinning all of our hopes for next year on a bunch of new guys that have never played D-I ball</span> <span style="color:blue">-- Obviously we are no different than any other team in the country in terms of new recruits. Two star and 3 star recruits given the timing of everything is a good start. </span><span style="color:green">It is not necessarily a good start. Even if he got the absolute best of what was available, they still aren't as good as the guys the rest of the Big XII got. It is like saying we got the fastest slow people. I'm not saying that the recruits he got were bad, but based on what I've seen and factoring in that they are spring signees, I am very worried.</span>

* His resume, look at what he did at UNI and Wayne State. He took programs that were down and after 2 years turned them into consistent winners.
<span style="color:red">I don't want to sound like a broken record, but he wasn't able to win championships at lower levels, what makes anyone think that he will do it at a higher level. I don't just want to win on a consistent basis (although I do wan't that obviously) I want to contend for and occasionally win conference titles and go beyond the first round of the NCAA tournament. The last two things are things McDermott has not shown to be capable of.</span> <span style="color:blue">--You do sound like a broken record that does not realize what McDermott has done in the past.</span><span style="color:green">DII does not equal DI much less high-major DI. I don't want to offend you but you sound like a broken record, constantly bringing up his success at Wayne State. That's like saying I could coach in college because I did a good job coaching my kid's little league team.</span>

* He is enjoyable and interesting to listen to.
<span style="color:red">You must have heard something I haven't. I haven't heard him speak too many times, but would never have characterized him as enjoyable or interesting to listen to. I'll have to try and catch his speaking live a few more times.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- I would not classify him as entertaining but I did enjoy watching the Living in Iowa segment and enjoy hearing him talk about basketball.</span><span style="color:green">Well, I guess that you enjoy different things than I do.</span>

* CHARACTER - I think this is the biggest plus of Greg McDermott. He has tremendous character. Living in Iowa on IPTV did a segment on him. He came across very humble and down to earth. On Deace's interview yesterday, Deace asked a question about Alex Thompson's maturity. McDermott's answer was basically his job was to develop and prepare young men for the rest of their lives. Basketball is his tool for doing that. From listening to his interview and learning more about him, I am incredibly impressed.
<span style="color:red">WM appeared to have tremendous character as well, and I still haven't seen anything to knock his character. There is the DI scheduling thing, but nothing has come from that and WM was very classy in his press conference after being fired. He said all of his players should stay at ISU and had nothing bad to say about the school or the administration that I can remember.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- This is where I really do not understand where you are going. I never mentioned anything about Morgan. I am talking about McDermott, the new ISU coach. If you are upset that Morgan is gone, why are you taking it out on McDermott? Pollard got rid of Morgan. </span><span style="color:green">I'm sorry I thought you were talking about why McDermott was a great choice as our coach. I was just commenting on Morgan our previous coach. Your last comments here are hilarious and way off-base. I am not upset over the firing of Morgan. I thought he should have gotten one more year, but I can accept that Pollard needed to make a change because of stuff I as an average fan could see behind the scenes. I just don't think that McDermott was the best option available for ISU. That is my opinion. Take it or leave it. I am not claiming to be 100% certain that I am right like many of the optomists here are. I feel the way I feel for the reasons I have stated. That is all. I find it very funny that I get attacked and called stupid for having an opinion, especially since I have what I consider pretty good points to back up my opinion.</span>

<span style="color:red">Your other points hold some merit, and I hope that you are right and that he will be the best thing since sliced bread, but as much as I hope for that, I just can't get excited about him as the coach of the cyclones. I am less excited about Cyclone basketball now than I have ever been. Even during the road loss streak, larrygate, etc.</span> <span style="color:blue">--This makes no sense to me at all. </span><span style="color:green">I am sorry that you have difficulty understanding the written word.</span>

<span style="color:red">To be fair McDermott seems to be going national in his recruiting efforts despite his early comments, and if he starts landing some big-time recruits (locally or nationally), or I see that Ross, Jiri and Jessan have all turned into monsters down low under his tutelage, I will start to be more excited and optomistic, but untill then, McDermott has a lot to prove to me.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- You did not actually believe McDermott was only going to recruit from the midwest or Iowa?</span><span style="color:green">I was going based on what McDermott himself said. Are you saying that I shouldn't believe the words coming out of his mouth? He still hasn't proved that he can bring in elite level talent, and the only guy that he has brought in that doesn't have midwest ties is McIntosh. And for the record, I don't care if he only recruits central iowa, as long as the players he brings in are quality BIX II material.</span>

<span style="color:blue">My final comment would be to evaluate McDermott fairly upon his credentials. Not based on if you think Morgan got a raw deal. That is the same thing a lot of people did to Morgan when he took over for LE.</span><span style="color:green">This comment of yours is just stupid. I don't care about WM anymore. You read that into my comments yourself. I care about the current state of the program and the current coach, and for the millionth time. I hope all of my concerns are baseless. I hope McDermott does wonderfully because that means good things for ISU, and if he is successful, I will have no problem admitting I was wrong.</span>



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By the way. I got an e-mail from Discombobulated and he has been banned from this site that claimed that no one would be banned from. He was not given a reason or any kind of explanation. Yet people who call players and other posters names and continually attack people personally are still free to post. I find that extremely cowardly and hyppocritical of whoever is responsible for Dicombobulated's banning.
 

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Melkor,

* He is familiar with Iowa State and the positives and negatives of being our coach.
<span style="color:red">I'm not really countering this point, because I guess I don't understand how this makes him better prepared for this job than anyone else.</span> <span style="color:blue">--I think knowing the difficulties of recruiting to ISU will help as well as just a famarlity with the state in terms of building relationships with fans and donors</span>

* He is a great X's and O's coach that stresses defense. Defense wins championships.
<span style="color:red">What championships has it won McDermott? He hasn't won anything. People seem to forget that his team folded last year.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- He won a conference championship at Wayne State, a tourney championship at UNI and was in the Sweet 16 at Wayne State.</span><span style="color:green">Let's be fair here. Wayne State is Division II. I will concede that he has won a title, if you will concede that Division II is lightyears ways away from the BIG XII. If you get one guy with DI talent on your team in DII (for whatever reason), you can dominate.</span>

* He assembled a quality coach staff very quickly.
<span style="color:red">How do you know it is a quality coaching staff? They might be, but none of them have a very impressive resume in my opinion.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- Prileou was an assitant at Wichita State and Marquette, 2 schools with recent success. TJ has some good juco and AAU contacts and the assitants from UNI took them to the NCAA's the last 3 years. Seems okay to me.</span><span style="color:green">I'm not saying they are terrible. I am saying that a juco/aau coach and a mid-major assistant are not that impressive.</span>

* Given the time and circumstances, McDermott did a good job of getting a team put together for next year. He found some good recruits and it sounds like he did everything possible to get the current players to stay.
<span style="color:red">Whether or not he did a good job is yet to be decided. He did a good job of giving out scholarship. We can't say he did a good job untill the season is over. I am worried that we are pinning all of our hopes for next year on a bunch of new guys that have never played D-I ball</span> <span style="color:blue">-- Obviously we are no different than any other team in the country in terms of new recruits. Two star and 3 star recruits given the timing of everything is a good start. </span><span style="color:green">It is not necessarily a good start. Even if he got the absolute best of what was available, they still aren't as good as the guys the rest of the Big XII got. It is like saying we got the fastest slow people. I'm not saying that the recruits he got were bad, but based on what I've seen and factoring in that they are spring signees, I am very worried.</span>

* His resume, look at what he did at UNI and Wayne State. He took programs that were down and after 2 years turned them into consistent winners.
<span style="color:red">I don't want to sound like a broken record, but he wasn't able to win championships at lower levels, what makes anyone think that he will do it at a higher level. I don't just want to win on a consistent basis (although I do wan't that obviously) I want to contend for and occasionally win conference titles and go beyond the first round of the NCAA tournament. The last two things are things McDermott has not shown to be capable of.</span> <span style="color:blue">--You do sound like a broken record that does not realize what McDermott has done in the past.</span><span style="color:green">DII does not equal DI much less high-major DI. I don't want to offend you but you sound like a broken record, constantly bringing up his success at Wayne State. That's like saying I could coach in college because I did a good job coaching my kid's little league team.</span>

* He is enjoyable and interesting to listen to.
<span style="color:red">You must have heard something I haven't. I haven't heard him speak too many times, but would never have characterized him as enjoyable or interesting to listen to. I'll have to try and catch his speaking live a few more times.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- I would not classify him as entertaining but I did enjoy watching the Living in Iowa segment and enjoy hearing him talk about basketball.</span><span style="color:green">Well, I guess that you enjoy different things than I do.</span>

* CHARACTER - I think this is the biggest plus of Greg McDermott. He has tremendous character. Living in Iowa on IPTV did a segment on him. He came across very humble and down to earth. On Deace's interview yesterday, Deace asked a question about Alex Thompson's maturity. McDermott's answer was basically his job was to develop and prepare young men for the rest of their lives. Basketball is his tool for doing that. From listening to his interview and learning more about him, I am incredibly impressed.
<span style="color:red">WM appeared to have tremendous character as well, and I still haven't seen anything to knock his character. There is the DI scheduling thing, but nothing has come from that and WM was very classy in his press conference after being fired. He said all of his players should stay at ISU and had nothing bad to say about the school or the administration that I can remember.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- This is where I really do not understand where you are going. I never mentioned anything about Morgan. I am talking about McDermott, the new ISU coach. If you are upset that Morgan is gone, why are you taking it out on McDermott? Pollard got rid of Morgan. </span><span style="color:green">I'm sorry I thought you were talking about why McDermott was a great choice as our coach. I was just commenting on Morgan our previous coach. Your last comments here are hilarious and way off-base. I am not upset over the firing of Morgan. I thought he should have gotten one more year, but I can accept that Pollard needed to make a change because of stuff I as an average fan could see behind the scenes. I just don't think that McDermott was the best option available for ISU. That is my opinion. Take it or leave it. I am not claiming to be 100% certain that I am right like many of the optomists here are. I feel the way I feel for the reasons I have stated. That is all. I find it very funny that I get attacked and called stupid for having an opinion, especially since I have what I consider pretty good points to back up my opinion.</span>

<span style="color:red">Your other points hold some merit, and I hope that you are right and that he will be the best thing since sliced bread, but as much as I hope for that, I just can't get excited about him as the coach of the cyclones. I am less excited about Cyclone basketball now than I have ever been. Even during the road loss streak, larrygate, etc.</span> <span style="color:blue">--This makes no sense to me at all. </span><span style="color:green">I am sorry that you have difficulty understanding the written word.</span>

<span style="color:red">To be fair McDermott seems to be going national in his recruiting efforts despite his early comments, and if he starts landing some big-time recruits (locally or nationally), or I see that Ross, Jiri and Jessan have all turned into monsters down low under his tutelage, I will start to be more excited and optomistic, but untill then, McDermott has a lot to prove to me.</span> <span style="color:blue">-- You did not actually believe McDermott was only going to recruit from the midwest or Iowa?</span><span style="color:green">I was going based on what McDermott himself said. Are you saying that I shouldn't believe the words coming out of his mouth? He still hasn't proved that he can bring in elite level talent, and the only guy that he has brought in that doesn't have midwest ties is McIntosh. And for the record, I don't care if he only recruits central iowa, as long as the players he brings in are quality BIX II material.</span>

<span style="color:blue">My final comment would be to evaluate McDermott fairly upon his credentials. Not based on if you think Morgan got a raw deal. That is the same thing a lot of people did to Morgan when he took over for LE.</span><span style="color:green">This comment of yours is just stupid. I don't care about WM anymore. You read that into my comments yourself. I care about the current state of the program and the current coach, and for the millionth time. I hope all of my concerns are baseless. I hope McDermott does wonderfully because that means good things for ISU, and if he is successful, I will have no problem admitting I was wrong.</span>

<span style="color:navy">Here is what I do not understand, every single positive thing that I or anyone else has to say about McDermott you reject. He has been on the job for 3 months and according to you has not done anything correct. How can a coach get to the level he has and be as incompetent as you claim? If you are okay with Morgan leaving and do not like McDermott, please list 3-5 coaches that Pollard should have hired instead.

I am not an eternal optimist about ISU sports. I think the football team will be 7-5 or 6-6 because that is what Mac is capable of doing. I look at McDermott and I see a guy who is capable of winning consistently at ISU. Time will prove me correct.</span>
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By the way. I got an e-mail from Discombobulated and he has been banned from this site that claimed that no one would be banned from. He was not given a reason or any kind of explanation. Yet people who call players and other posters names and continually attack people personally are still free to post. I find that extremely cowardly and hyppocritical of whoever is responsible for Dicombobulated's banning.
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melkor-
I respect your opinion but I need to remind you that I run this site by spending all my extra money for something that I feel strongly about. I have invested a great amount of time and money into this site and when I get 50+/- messages regarding one user, I feel I need to take some sort of action. I'm doing this site as a hobby and not as a business. I said I wouldn't ban anybody unless they cross the line several times with personal attacks. You might not have seen them all but there were some that people found quite offensive.
 

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That is fine. You can run your site anyway you want, but you should let people know that it is not an open forum as you claimed, and at the beginning I don't recall you making any qualifying statements when you said no one would be banned. Now at the risk of getting banned myself, here is an unedited message from the only person banned from this board, and I agree with him, because I have probably read at least 95% of his posts.

Jeremy,
What is all this noise about me attacking people? I have never personally attacked anyone without first being told to "suck a tit" or that I am an idiot, or that i suck and need to die. All I have done is express my opinion. The day before I got banned for supposedly attacking people I sent out 3 private messages; 1 to Syracuse clone, nothing negative. the second was to dbronc your moderator, agreeing to be in a debate that you wanted to sponsor, The third to cgwarrior for thanking him for his support, and telling him that I appreciated his support and opinion, although we don't always agree, i am just putting my opinion out there, If this is the kind of person you are, I feel the need to report you to the Cyclone athletic department (cyclone is a trademarked term) because I do not want you associated with the University that I love and enjoyed my time at. If you can find ANY PROOF I WAS HARASSING PEOPLE, or that I was ever the first to send a private message of any nature, please feel free to post it, as I know this never occurred. Just because the closed minded, kool aid drinking, pieces of trash that inhabit your site claim something does not mean it's true. Did you not stop to think that possibly a couple of the people that gave me my - 70+ rating got together and decided to make stuff up? Seriously if this is how you get your information, I guess there is no need to ever return to the site again. Unconfirmed email from people not involved in the situation, wow that is some good research. Have you no knowledge of the Salem Witch hunts. An unconfirmed rumor leads to a trial by fire, guess what I, the great questioner of the unproven, non winner mcdermott is being treated as. What is next, will you sell my organs to japan after my execution like china for dissenting? Maybe you should have contacted me to find out what was going on, I am not hard to find. My opinion is that you were tired of me being right and showing you up. We have had confrontations before, and although I have never gone to the level of name calling, maybe you were just pissed that I was costing you money to contradict you.

New quote... you cannot stop me, you can only hope to contain me.

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Discombobulated and I never got into any exchanges on the site, not one. I barely ever even replied to his topics because I felt others were better suited since they weren't the site admin. I try very hard on this site and do not appreciate it when one person drives dozens, if not hundreds, of users away just because they feel the need to call them names when they are either proved wrong or have nothing better to do. I appreciate the time you spent on the site but I can honestly say I cannot remember a single instance where what I posted as fact was ever disproved by you. I have had a very high success rate with being correct about information on this site. If you feel the need to only hear about things that are proven to be 100% correct, read the press releases from ISU. If you read anything else, your reading what could be considered hearsay, even if it's on ESPN or in the DM Reg.

When people register for the site, the rules have always been very clearly defined regarding personal attacks and inappropriate material. If you cannot be respectful to other member's and their opinions, you do not belong on a message board. If all I wanted on the site was my opinion, it would be a blog and not a forum.

I think you will find about 99% of the people on this site aren't just optimists but look at things and respectfully disagree but don't attack over it. I have no problem with different opinions, in fact if you read any of my early comments on the site, my goal was to have different opinions expressed. The reason you don't see many objecting to what I post is because they take a look at it and either see the points being made or they wait for the end result to surface. You have not said one good thing about that school in which you say you love. I have never met a person in my life that looks down so much on what they supposedly live for. If you were a fan, of any team, the last thing you would do is try to hurt the image of the team. There is a difference between being skeptical/pessimistic and being downright hateful to the program and any fan that wants to let things work themselves out.

You can say whatever you want regarding how you acted, I think everybody on here knows the difference between disagreeing and personally attacking. You crossed the line many, many times and that is it. I waited long enough until I had heard from so many people on the matter. If you want to express your opinion that strongly and call people vulgar names, start your own site and see how long people visit it. I spend my hard earned money to run a site as a hobby and the only thing I ask for in exchange is for people to respect the rules, of which there aren't hardly any. I don't ask for $10 a month like the rest of the sites, I just ask for you to respect the other posters, nothing more, nothing less.

Respectfully,
Jeremy
 

Cyclonesrule91

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Alright melkor................It is obvious that you and Discombobed are buddies and you are taking on his offense. Please do us all a favor and if you have an issue with Jeremy banning him, EMAIL him and handle it that way instead of this immature way. That email that you just copied from Discombob only confirmed to me why he was banned.

<span style="color:red">Just because the closed minded, kool aid drinking, pieces of trash that inhabit your site claim something does not mean it's true</span>

<span style="color:red">My opinion is that you were tired of me being right and showing you up. We have had confrontations before, and although I have never gone to the level of name calling, maybe you were just pissed that I was costing you money to contradict you. <span style="color:red"></span></span>
<span style="color:red">you cannot stop me, you can only hope to contain me. </span>

Reread the message and tell me this whole thing is not confrontational and bashing. Email Jeremy and hash out your problems with him there. You are just proving to us why Jeremy was right to do what he did. This is childish and I think you are better than this????????
 

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Wait a minute, Melkor

Are you telling me you actually support this guy? Are you joking? This message that you say you agree with shows more signs of mental illness than any lucid, reasonable thought process. How could youpossibly find anything to agree with in there? Turning the site into the University? Salem witch trials? Execution and donating organs to Japan? WTF? It's a frealing message board, not a life and death situation. Grow  up!

Someone is obviously very immature to write ridiculous, self-persecution crap like that, but you support him? He writes outrageous hyperbole like that, then says he's been right all along? Well, I'm sorry but when you exaggerate that much, how can you expect anyone to believe that what you're saying is the truth? You can't. And the stuff he wrote was neither true nor false anyway, it was OPINION, which can't be confused with fact. But he seems to do that.

You're losing credibility if you say you agree with anything he has to say.
 
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