Cyclones up to No. 16, highest ranked Big 12 team in latest AP Poll

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The SEC probably deserves 4 this year. That league is usually overhyped but it's legit deep this year and the bottom half is not nearly as soft as it's been. The B1G is a joke. Outside of tOSU, Oregon, and Penn State it's pretty underwhelming. Michigan being #10 is pretty hilarious. They aren't a good football team this year. They got absolutely piss stomped by Texas and looked poor against Arkansas State, USC, and Minnesota. They are maybe a 20-25 type team and that might even be generous.
bama, georgia, texas will be in basically no matter what. then mizzou has a fairly easy sec schedule so I could see them getting in.
 

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I can’t either. Auburn is a very weak team and OU almost got beat by them. OU might give Texas a run since it’s a rivalry game, but I really don’t see them being favored the rest of their conference games. And next season they have at least five teams they will probably lose to. OU could reasonably be looking at a 14-12, 15-11 record the first two years in the SEC and no chance of reaching the playoffs.
OU’s AD said the Sooners will not lose their pipeline to Texas high school players like Nebby did. I’m not sure abou that.
Think about this unlikely scenario when Texas bolted. OU stays, convinces Nebby, Mizzou to rejoin and somehow convinces Arky to leave the SEC. The TV money would be on par (close) with the SEC and the path for the CFP would be a lot easier. I realize that’s pretty far fetched. But in 10 years, OU may look back and ask “what if”?

OU's path definitely was a sure lock 3 out of every 4 years going forward by staying in the Big12. I hope their extra money is fun while they're watching from home.
 
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OU's path definitely was a sure lock 3 out of every 4 years going forward by staying in the Big12. I hope their extra money is fun while they're watching from home.
Best post I read on an OU forum is that the sooner fan complained that he received the following comment from a Tennessee fan one week and an Auburn fan the next: “is that the only song your band knows?”
 

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**** the sec, the media bias, and them only playing 8 conference games.

#12 Mississippi's schedule so far (Sagarin Rank)

Furman (174)
Middle Tennessee State (157)
at Wake Forest (93)
Georgia Southern (89)
Kentucky (25)

#9 Missouri's schedule so far (Sagarin Rank)

Murray State (221)
Buffalo (141)
Boston College (62)
Vanderbilt (81)
Neither of those teams will win 10 games; neither of those two teams will even sniff the Playoffs. I've been following S.E.C. Football for a long, long time. Teams that lose to Kentucky at home (Ole Miss) and have to go to OT to beat Vandy at home (Mizzou) are going to be food for teams like Alabama, Texas and Tennessee.
 

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Neither of those teams will win 10 games; neither of those two teams will even sniff the Playoffs. I've been following S.E.C. Football for a long, long time. Teams that lose to Kentucky at home (Ole Miss) and have to go to OT to beat Vandy at home (Mizzou) are going to be food for teams like Alabama, Texas and Tennessee.
Yeah but Missouri only plays Bama, ole miss only plays Georgia. Neither play Tenn or Texas. They do both catch OU though. So I wins is very possible for both, more so for Missouri
 

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Yeah but Missouri only plays Bama, ole miss only plays Georgia. Neither play Tenn or Texas. They do both catch OU though. So I wins is very possible for both, more so for Missouri
That's true, but they will stub their toes somewhere else. I'm just not worried about either of those two teams. I know they both had nice teams in 2023, but I don't see either of them doing that back to back. Time will tell. Oh, Ole Miss plays LSU too, which is a potential loss.
 
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Yeah, I don't think this year it is possible at all to have an easy SEC schedule. But with the size of the league and only 8 games you could have some WILDLY different SOS in their league schedules. So much so that I think it's possible that a team could and should be able to leap over another in the league standings to get in the playoff or be seeded higher.

It makes me sick a bit, but I'm fully buying the SEC hype this year, just because it's finally got what it's been missing in a given year, which is incredible depth. It's always given the illusion of a deep league because you had different teams take turns at the top of CFB, but in any given year it has still really been pretty top-heavy.

The league is super deep right now.
Funny to see so many sucking off the SEC. Super deep this year!? No, Vandy isn’t good. MSU stinks. Florida stinks. Ole Miss was overrated from the start, and Kentucky beating them proves this. Arkansas and Auburn are not good. Mizzou doesn’t scare me and OU wouldn’t win the Big 12 this year. Would absolutely LOVE a shot at them.

Looks like a typical SEC year to me, the only difference being the media slobbering all over them twice as hard as they normally do.
 

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Funny to see so many sucking off the SEC. Super deep this year!? No, Vandy isn’t good. MSU stinks. Florida stinks. Ole Miss was overrated from the start, and Kentucky beating them proves this. Arkansas and Auburn are not good. Mizzou doesn’t scare me and OU wouldn’t win the Big 12 this year. Would absolutely LOVE a shot at them.

Looks like a typical SEC year to me, the only difference being the media slobbering all over them twice as hard as they normally do.
Typical in the sense they are the best?

UGa and Bama are once again a notch above anything the other conferences have, and now UT. Their 2nd tier of Tennessee and Ole Miss types would have great chances at winning other conferences

Seems like once again it’s the SEC and Ohio St, although it’ll be fun to see if outmanned Big 12 or ACC teams can pull an upset, or even a new BIG like Oregon or USC can be like Washington from a year ago
 

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Funny to see so many sucking off the SEC. Super deep this year!? No, Vandy isn’t good. MSU stinks. Florida stinks. Ole Miss was overrated from the start, and Kentucky beating them proves this. Arkansas and Auburn are not good. Mizzou doesn’t scare me and OU wouldn’t win the Big 12 this year. Would absolutely LOVE a shot at them.

Looks like a typical SEC year to me, the only difference being the media slobbering all over them twice as hard as they normally do.
Sagarin has 6 of the top 11 from the SEC. I think there’s arguments to be made against the Sagarin formula, but it is in fact a predetermined formula, not some subjective goalpost moving to show the SEC is best.
 

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So #16 is the highest any Big 12 team is in the current poll? I'm sorry, that is just disrespect. I'm not saying it should be us, but there should be at least one somewhere between 9 and 11.

And if you say it doesn't matter, this is what sets the expectations of who should get into the CFP. It matters. What, exactly, does Ole Miss have to do to drop? They had a BAD loss at home. How about ND? And Mizzou? Give me a break! Can their SEC schedule be any easier?
 
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Hines says #19 in Rag today. Does anyone know where that is from?
 

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So #16 is the highest any Big 12 team is in the current poll? I'm sorry, that is just disrespect. I'm not saying it should be us, but there should be at least one somewhere between 9 and 11.

And if you say it doesn't matter, this is what sets the expectations of who should get into the CFP. It matters. What, exactly, does Ole Miss have to do to drop? They had a BAD loss at home. How about ND? And Mizzou? Give me a break! Can their SEC schedule be any easier?

I feel like the whole conference other than Houston really is 15th-50th. I think our middle teams would probably match up evenly with midle Big Ten and some of our "bottom" teams like OK State would actually probably destroy them. Nobody matches up well with SEC, computer models have Big Ten an Big 12 even top to bottom and both quite a bit behind SEC, if you were to try that "power 2" bull$hit it's more like SEC is "power 1".

The high end will have to develop over time hopefully. If TCU was still "up" we'd already have that high end, also seems incredibly likely Arizona could have been elite this year if they hadn't lost a lot of players and coaches. There's certainly a lot of upside for TCU, Arizona and Colorado in terms of some natural advantages and talent pool vs competition, maybe even for a team like Cincy or Pitt (they'll be here soon) when you consider the talent around them and only one major conference team in the talent rich state.
 

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I can’t either. Auburn is a very weak team and OU almost got beat by them. OU might give Texas a run since it’s a rivalry game, but I really don’t see them being favored the rest of their conference games. And next season they have at least five teams they will probably lose to. OU could reasonably be looking at a 14-12, 15-11 record the first two years in the SEC and no chance of reaching the playoffs.
OU’s AD said the Sooners will not lose their pipeline to Texas high school players like Nebby did. I’m not sure abou that.
Think about this unlikely scenario when Texas bolted. OU stays, convinces Nebby, Mizzou to rejoin and somehow convinces Arky to leave the SEC. The TV money would be on par (close) with the SEC and the path for the CFP would be a lot easier. I realize that’s pretty far fetched. But in 10 years, OU may look back and ask “what if”?
OU had to go to SEC. Pay for play is coming and they had to take their seat at the head table with the most $$. They also have to be at the head table when the top division of CFB shrinks to 40 ish teams.

They will have no regret, they never had a choice.

The hypothetical you threw out is just as you describe... far fetched.
 

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Editor's note with the online version:

(This story was updated because an earlier version included an inaccuracy. Iowa State football is ranked No. 16.)
Must have been a typo by Hines. I wonder if he will correct it in tomorrows print edition.
 

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Is it open letter time with a win this Saturday?
"Dear America, ISU doesn't care what you think."
 

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Goodness, Missouri doesn’t look like a top 10 team, much less top 25. Weird!
 

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