Cyclones up to No. 16, highest ranked Big 12 team in latest AP Poll
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I totally agree. Hopefully we win the thing and they are #2 or something. But if it comes down to us or Deion for an at-large spot, prepare for a trip to the Alamo or something instead.
Pretty sure we got to 9th afterwards beat TTech and Seneca had "the run". Don't think we've ever been higher than that, and still have a ways to go to get there this season.
Iowa State's highest AP ranking ever was 7th in 2021 before the disastrous iowa game. Looked it up.
Iowa's not going 10-2 they have no passing game. Again. They have about 4-5 tossup because they're 1 dimensional and won't sweep them. 8-4 is more like it
I don't know where the current ChatGPT knowledge cutoff is, but I feel incredibly confident it's from before this season began. Likely even goes back to the last season, so it has no clue how the 2024 season has played out thus far and probably doesn't know about offseason changes made at programs. It almost never has super current information available to formulate responses.
That was also a game they were picked to win. Missouri has also barely squeezed by Vandy and BC but remain top 10.
Our Sagarin has been identical to AP every week this year.
Sagarin: 16
Massey: 10
Massey composite: 10
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Lowest in composite is #25, highest is 2!!! Lol
Sagarin: 16
Massey: 10
Massey composite: 10
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Lowest in composite is #25, highest is 2!!! Lol
A lot of this will work itself out.
Ole Miss still plays @South Carolina, @LSU, Oklahoma and Georgia. If they finish 10-2, they are a top 10 worthy team most likely.
Michigan gets @Illinois, Oregon, @indiana, @Ohio State. If they finish 10-2, they are top 10 worthy team. If they lose to Oregon and OSU, go 9-3, it will be intersting. Would wins against Illinois, Indiana and USC be seen as that great?
USC has a nice schedule yet. Their toughest games are all home games (PSU, ND, Nebraska and Rutgers).
Missouri doesn't play a murderer's row, but will have to prove it. @Alabama is a loss. They get Auburn and OU at home, plus A&M and SC on the road. We'll find out if they are worthy or not.
Really the only thing that would truly piss me off is a 9-3 SEC or Big 10 team jumping a 12-1 or 11-2 Big 12 at large. It'll probably happen to an 11-2 Big 12 at large unfortunately.
SEC
At this point, Alabama and Texas are locks.
Tennessee is as close to a lock as you can get. Unless there is a major upset, they are finishing no worse than 10-2 (losses to Georgia and Alabama).
I'd put Georgia as a lock, but they do play all the toughest SEC teams. Its not crazy to think they could finish 8-4 with losses to Texas, Ole MIss and Tennessee, although I think they'll beat Ole Miss and go 9-3 at worst.
Ole Miss is probably their 5th option if they go 10-2, losing to Georgia.
Really need to cheer for OU, Auburn, LSU, A&M, SC and Kentucky to play SEC spoilers and mess it all up.
Big 10
Ohio State and Oregon are probably locks, although Oregon's close games to Idaho and Boise State make me wonder.
I gotta see more out of Penn State, but they are probably in. They pulled away late against WVU and barely got by Bowling Green.
USC has a nice schedule.
Michigan will fall off.
Ole Miss still plays @South Carolina, @LSU, Oklahoma and Georgia. If they finish 10-2, they are a top 10 worthy team most likely.
Michigan gets @Illinois, Oregon, @indiana, @Ohio State. If they finish 10-2, they are top 10 worthy team. If they lose to Oregon and OSU, go 9-3, it will be intersting. Would wins against Illinois, Indiana and USC be seen as that great?
USC has a nice schedule yet. Their toughest games are all home games (PSU, ND, Nebraska and Rutgers).
Missouri doesn't play a murderer's row, but will have to prove it. @Alabama is a loss. They get Auburn and OU at home, plus A&M and SC on the road. We'll find out if they are worthy or not.
Really the only thing that would truly piss me off is a 9-3 SEC or Big 10 team jumping a 12-1 or 11-2 Big 12 at large. It'll probably happen to an 11-2 Big 12 at large unfortunately.
SEC
At this point, Alabama and Texas are locks.
Tennessee is as close to a lock as you can get. Unless there is a major upset, they are finishing no worse than 10-2 (losses to Georgia and Alabama).
I'd put Georgia as a lock, but they do play all the toughest SEC teams. Its not crazy to think they could finish 8-4 with losses to Texas, Ole MIss and Tennessee, although I think they'll beat Ole Miss and go 9-3 at worst.
Ole Miss is probably their 5th option if they go 10-2, losing to Georgia.
Really need to cheer for OU, Auburn, LSU, A&M, SC and Kentucky to play SEC spoilers and mess it all up.
Big 10
Ohio State and Oregon are probably locks, although Oregon's close games to Idaho and Boise State make me wonder.
I gotta see more out of Penn State, but they are probably in. They pulled away late against WVU and barely got by Bowling Green.
USC has a nice schedule.
Michigan will fall off.
It's difficult for Big 12 teams to move up because there's so much power in the SEC and Big 18. The strength of schedule is always going to keep them lower than a lot of the Power 2 schools.
What would really help Iowa State is for Iowa to keep winning but I don't think that'll be enough to leap them over similar level Power 2 schools.
What bothers me is a team like Ohio State staying so high up in the rankings based purely on reputation as their schedule has been a complete joke but that's just the way it goes.
Iowa State just needs to keep winning. I think they might be able to survive 1 loss if it's a close one in the Championship game but otherwise, just keep winning and force your way into the playoff.
Kansas State and Utah are already cooked in terms of getting an at large bid, that's how thin the margin for error is in the Big 12
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I think a 1 loss big 12 team meaning it sweeps regular season is definitely in. 2 loss non championship team is 50/50 depending on scenarios you outlined but probably the 11th or 12th team and 3 loss team is eliminated. So much football left but you can probably assume that's the scenario imo
9-3 Big Ten teams are not going to be better than 10-2 or 11-2 Big 12 teams unless they have the absolutely toughest schedule you could craft, definitely not better than a 12-1 b12 ccg loser.
9-3 SEC could be easily. The SEC is far deeper than usual with only one team looking truly bad. The Big ten has a very weak middle and bottom as it always does which is why computers grade out big ten and big 12 pretty much identical this year but SEC quite a bit above both.
The rankings don't mean a lot until the official playoff rankings come out so take these with a grain of salt, for now.
Michigan is about only one that fits that bill but I think they end up with 4 or 5 losses. They play texas, Oregon, and Ohio State. In addition to getting in with 3 losses I don't think they can afford another blowout. With 12 teams now getting in I think style points are going to matter when you're sorting through the 10 to 15 spots
I hope you are right about the Big 10, but I'm still nervous about it. Lets say USC loses to Penn State and Notre Dame to go 9-3. Lets say Iowa State loses to Utah and KSU and goes 10-2 and no Big 12 championship game.
USC would have wins over LSU, Nebraska, Rutgers?
ISU would have wins over Iowa, West Virginia, UCF?
I think USC gets in over ISU in that scenario.
In that scenario I agree with your take unless Iowa puts together a very impressive rest of the season. If ksu and Utah beat ISU they are also most likely in the conference champ game, if they aren’t due to racking up more losses and aren’t ranked then probably no chance
Still too many variables
College Football Power Rankings: Alabama takes over lead spot
Two new teams enter our top 25 and the Crimson Tide claim the top spot following Week 5.
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No. 13 Iowa State Cyclones
Previous ranking: 18
Matt Campbell became the winningest coach in Iowa State history Saturday thanks to a 20-0 road victory at Houston, securing the first 4-0 start of Campbell's nine-season tenure. This was an ugly 3-0 game at halftime, but the Cyclones eventually pulled away with a 240-yard effort from their run game and another excellent effort from Jon Heacock's defense.
Houston went 1-for-10 on third downs and did not reach the red zone once against a unit that now ranks fourth in FBS in scoring defense at 7.3 points per game. With Baylor and West Virginiaup next, a 6-0 start looks entirely possible. -- Max Olson
