*** Cyclone Fanatic Cartoon Tournament: Round of 64 *** Note 1 more matchup on page 3

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Sometime a bracket could be done of just cartoons in last 25 years. But then we would need people with experience in them to be the committee.

We tried our best.
Here is my feeling, there are just too many cartoons in all different types to do in a all out like this cut down to only a few.

What probably needs to be done is dividing them up in categories then have mini tournament of each, and the winners of each category moving on to the final championship, best of all cartoon.

Some forms being...
cartoons by decade, or generation. ie 80s, 90s, 00s. or 60s-70s, 80s-90s 00-20s etc. Each getting a bracket with the champion going to said championship.

Or genres etc things like kids, adult, Saturday, Cable, Network, comedy, classics, modern, Anime. etc.

Obviously this would be a huge tourney and take a lot more time, so I understand why not doing it too. But with a small limited field like this, you will have a lot of generational discrepancies and there will always be someone that thinks one of their favorites was left out.
 
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Here is my feeling, there are just too many cartoons in all different types to do in a all out like this cut down to only a few.

What probably needs to be done is dividing them up in categories then have mini tournament of each, and the winners of each category moving on to the final championship, best of all cartoon.

Some forms being...
cartoons by decade, or generation. ie 80s, 90s, 00s. or 60s-70s, 80s-90s 00-20s etc. Each getting a bracket with the champion going to said championship.

Or genres etc things like kids, adult, Saturday, Cable, Network, comedy, classics, modern, Anime. etc.

Obviously this would be a huge tourney and take a lot more time, so I understand why not doing it too. But with a small limited field like this, you will have a lot of generational discrepancies and there will always be someone that thinks one of their favorites was left out.

Would also need people with expertise in all genre's to be committee members.

Every time I plead for new people who might have experience where others do not.

Pretty much for most of tournaments the committee has been the same core group.

I promise it doesn't take alot of time. People can just post to committee pm thread when it works for them.

We can only try our best. In the end this is just a fun way to get through offseason.
 

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Here is my feeling, there are just too many cartoons in all different types to do in a all out like this cut down to only a few.

What probably needs to be done is dividing them up in categories then have mini tournament of each, and the winners of each category moving on to the final championship, best of all cartoon.

Some forms being...
cartoons by decade, or generation. ie 80s, 90s, 00s. or 60s-70s, 80s-90s 00-20s etc. Each getting a bracket with the champion going to said championship.

Or genres etc things like kids, adult, Saturday, Cable, Network, comedy, classics, modern, Anime. etc.

Obviously this would be a huge tourney and take a lot more time, so I understand why not doing it too. But with a small limited field like this, you will have a lot of generational discrepancies and there will always be someone that thinks one of their favorites was left out.

Those ideas for categorization & expansion definitely allows more inclusion. As you noted, it does increase the workload somewhat.

When we did the sitcom tournament, we considered regionalizing by decade/era, then realized it might make it too heavy in one period that has a lot more acclaimed shows than another, so there could be imbalance anyway.

Also, it's kind of fun to see cross-era matchups and how they fare.

Re: Anime - committee decided to eliminate that since it could be a separate tournament topic in itself. Or if not, it would've increase the pool of candidates to be way too much.
 

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Here is my feeling, there are just too many cartoons in all different types to do in a all out like this cut down to only a few.

What probably needs to be done is dividing them up in categories then have mini tournament of each, and the winners of each category moving on to the final championship, best of all cartoon.

Some forms being...
cartoons by decade, or generation. ie 80s, 90s, 00s. or 60s-70s, 80s-90s 00-20s etc. Each getting a bracket with the champion going to said championship.

Or genres etc things like kids, adult, Saturday, Cable, Network, comedy, classics, modern, Anime. etc.

Obviously this would be a huge tourney and take a lot more time, so I understand why not doing it too. But with a small limited field like this, you will have a lot of generational discrepancies and there will always be someone that thinks one of their favorites was left out.
What about cartoons for the 50’s to 60’s. I know, I am old!
 
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Here is my feeling, there are just too many cartoons in all different types to do in a all out like this cut down to only a few.

What probably needs to be done is dividing them up in categories then have mini tournament of each, and the winners of each category moving on to the final championship, best of all cartoon.

Some forms being...
cartoons by decade, or generation. ie 80s, 90s, 00s. or 60s-70s, 80s-90s 00-20s etc. Each getting a bracket with the champion going to said championship.

Or genres etc things like kids, adult, Saturday, Cable, Network, comedy, classics, modern, Anime. etc.

Obviously this would be a huge tourney and take a lot more time, so I understand why not doing it too. But with a small limited field like this, you will have a lot of generational discrepancies and there will always be someone that thinks one of their favorites was left out.
I'm honestly enjoying this because it is so all over the place. This is how we absorb most sports content now, with a 24/7 sports news cycle and everyone with a microphone having a podcast, everyone has an opinion and wants to slight a different viewpoint. We just get to be the "podcasters" in this situation and it's fun. The weird matchups and "upsets" are more fun to talk about and discuss vs if everything was "accurately" seeded by AI or something, and then the most popular cartoons just win anyway. So to the committee thank you for making a fun and somewhat bizarre bracket that keeps us chatting!
 

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I'm honestly enjoying this because it is so all over the place. This is how we absorb most sports content now, with a 24/7 sports news cycle and everyone with a microphone having a podcast, everyone has an opinion and wants to slight a different viewpoint. We just get to be the "podcasters" in this situation and it's fun. The weird matchups and "upsets" are more fun to talk about and discuss vs if everything was "accurately" seeded by AI or something, and then the most popular cartoons just win anyway. So to the committee thank you for making a fun and somewhat bizarre bracket that keeps us chatting!

Maybe this tournament gets a younger person to look into some of the older stuff and vice versa for older folks.

I've been searching some of stuff that's old for and enjoying it lot. Like mentally going back through a time machine.
 

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Seeing this listed out the emotional response fandom for me is

Scooby Doo
X Men
He-Man
Transformers
SpongeBob
King of the Hill
Beavis and Butthead
Speed Racer

Kind of ambivalent towards most of the rest. Recently had King of the Hill on in background for months, holds up way better than almost all 90s and early 00s tv. It’s sneaky political in a measured way.
 
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What about cartoons for the 50’s to 60’s. I know, I am old!
I didnt post all the categories just a few examples. I would say though that at some point if you went by year/generation, you would have to get the list first then see how many each category has then adjust the ranges so all are equal or close to.

With there being a lot less the further back you go, you probably would do something like.
60 and earlier.
60s-70s
80s-90s
00s-15
15-25

Although that is an uneven number too, so it would be easier to go by decade with "60 and earlier" being the first, and "2020 and later" being the last. That would give you 8 brackets, if they are uneven from there, it would not be as big of a deal because then you just take the champions for each decade, and do a final 8 place tourney, with the best of each decade against each other.

Again that is just a guess as I have no exact knowledge of how many there actually are per generation. But also possible that not going by year but by genre would work too, but I feel those also may be hard to balance out and some might fit multiple categories.

Not trying to be overly critical of the creators here, as they have taken the time work to do this, just saying to get everyone's favorites in one tournament you would/could do something like that. And realizing in a smaller version like this, some people are going to have some preferred shows left out, or seeded low.

I want to say again, I appreciate the work put into this, as it is, Just adding my 3.5 cents, as to what it would take to try to include as many as possible in one tourney.
 

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Seeing this listed out the emotional response fandom for me is

Scooby Doo
X Men
He-Man
Transformers
SpongeBob
King of the Hill
Beavis and Butthead
Speed Racer

Kind of ambivalent towards most of the rest. Recently had King of the Hill on in background for months, holds up way better than almost all 90s and early 00s tv. It’s sneaky political in a measured way.
My guess you are in a certain generation or close to it.

I think the kids that grew up in the 80s might have a certain connection to cartoons. 80s kids, it was almost a religion to watch saturday morning cartoons. The days when there were 3 channels, and you would get home from school to a couple more syndicated shows. That generation, then were the first to really get cable/sat and its early cartoons for older people, like Beavis and Butthead when they got to college or on there own.

Before that there were some greats but it was not quite the same, and after that we were flooded with tons of cartoons on tons of channels 24 hrs a day/7days a week, I dont think people got quite as attached to a favorite like GenX did or those close to that Generation.

At least that is my thinking on it.
 
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My guess you are in a certain generation or close to it.

I think the kids that grew up in the 80s might have a certain connection to cartoons. 80s kids, it was almost a religion to watch saturday morning cartoons. The days when there were 3 channels, and you would get home from school to a couple more syndicated shows. That generation, then were the first to really get cable/sat and its early cartoons for older people, like Beavis and Butthead when they got to college or on there own.

Before that there were some greats but it was not quite the same, and after that we were flooded with tons of cartoons on tons of channels 24 hrs a day/7days a week, I dont think people got quite as attached to a favorite like GenX did or those close to that Generation.

At least that is my thinking on it.

There’s some objective truth to it because it was illegal to directly advertise to kids prior to the 80s. No coincidence cartoons and connected toys and sugary cereal/snacks exploded at same time.

I didn’t watch SpongeBob until I was an adult, I just actually find it funny.
 
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I didnt post all the categories just a few examples. I would say though that at some point if you went by year/generation, you would have to get the list first then see how many each category has then adjust the ranges so all are equal or close to.

With there being a lot less the further back you go, you probably would do something like.
60 and earlier.
60s-70s
80s-90s
00s-15
15-25

Although that is an uneven number too, so it would be easier to go by decade with "60 and earlier" being the first, and "2020 and later" being the last. That would give you 8 brackets, if they are uneven from there, it would not be as big of a deal because then you just take the champions for each decade, and do a final 8 place tourney, with the best of each decade against each other.

Again that is just a guess as I have no exact knowledge of how many there actually are per generation. But also possible that not going by year but by genre would work too, but I feel those also may be hard to balance out and some might fit multiple categories.

Not trying to be overly critical of the creators here, as they have taken the time work to do this, just saying to get everyone's favorites in one tournament you would/could do something like that. And realizing in a smaller version like this, some people are going to have some preferred shows left out, or seeded low.

I want to say again, I appreciate the work put into this, as it is, Just adding my 3.5 cents, as to what it would take to try to include as many as possible in one tourney.

Appreciate posts like this over ones that come off super negative.
 
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Would also need people with expertise in all genre's to be committee members.

Every time I plead for new people who might have experience where others do not.

Pretty much for most of tournaments the committee has been the same core group.

I promise it doesn't take alot of time. People can just post to committee pm thread when it works for them.

We can only try our best. In the end this is just a fun way to get through offseason.
I asked my 14 year old to tell me about some newer cartoons and there was one he kept talking about. I ranked it something like 25th on my list because he said it's really popular. I forget the name of it. Invincible, or something close to that.

I think most of us on the committee are around the same age and don't know a whole lot about cartoons from the last 20 years
 

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I asked my 14 year old to tell me about some newer cartoons and there was one he kept talking about. I ranked it something like 25th on my list because he said it's really popular. I forget the name of it. Invincible, or something close to that.

I think most of us on the committee are around the same age and don't know a whole lot about cartoons from the last 20 years

I vaguely know of some because of my nieces but other than that I've been out of cartoon game in my adult years.
 
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