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Iowa's schedule reminds me a lot of ISU's under Mac, when we got to miss OU and Texas. One of those years was Mac's 9 win season, KU also had the same schedule and that is how they got to the Sugar Bowl or Orange Bowl that one year.

Look at a school like Rutgers, they have no chance to really ever win anything. Every year they have to play OSU, Mich. MSU and Penn. St, to even go 2-2 would be a heck of a claim. Most years they will be lucky to win one of those games. Throw in cross over games like Iowa, Wisconsin and NW and Ash better make hay during the nonconference to even get to 6 wins.
 

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Iowa's schedule reminds me a lot of ISU's under Mac, when we got to miss OU and Texas. One of those years was Mac's 9 win season, KU also had the same schedule and that is how they got to the Sugar Bowl or Orange Bowl that one year.

Look at a school like Rutgers, they have no chance to really ever win anything. Every year they have to play OSU, Mich. MSU and Penn. St, to even go 2-2 would be a heck of a claim. Most years they will be lucky to win one of those games. Throw in cross over games like Iowa, Wisconsin and NW and Ash better make hay during the nonconference to even get to 6 wins.

If you remove Iowa from ISU's schedule and ISU from Iowa's schedule, here's how their opponent rankings stacked up last year for Sagarin SOS purposes:

UI ISU
#8 #5
#11 #16
#25 #17
#32 #20
#42 #31
#47 #40
#54 #46
#56 #52
#66 #62
#84 #93
#96 #210
 
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If you remove Iowa from ISU's schedule and ISU from Iowa's schedule, here's how their opponent rankings stacked up last year for Sagarin SOS purposes:

UI ISU
#8 #5
#11 #16
#25 #17
#32 #20
#42 #31
#47 #40
#54 #46
#56 #52
#66 #62
#84 #93
#96 #210

It's almost like we played a much harder schedule than you last year even with the Drake game being on there. So jealous of your Big Ten West schedule
 

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If you remove Iowa from ISU's schedule and ISU from Iowa's schedule, here's how their opponent rankings stacked up last year for Sagarin SOS purposes:

UI ISU
#8 #5
#11 #16
#25 #17
#32 #20
#42 #31
#47 #40
#54 #46
#56 #52
#66 #62
#84 #93
#96 #210
I'm sorry but I dont trust those rankings all that much. I dont know if it benefits Iowa or ISU in the long run but Miss St and Penn St were not better than Wazzu. They also have 8 win Ms St better than 10 win LSU, Florida, or Texas.
I think there are some flaws in their system.
 
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I'm sorry but I dont trust those rankings all that much. I dont know if it benefits Iowa or ISU in the long run but Miss St and Penn St were not better than Wazzu. They also have 8 win Ms St better than 10 win LSU, Florida, or Texas.
I think there are some flaws in their system.

I agree about the flaws, but it is what CyTwins uses for SOS which is determined by Sagarin rankings.
 

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I agree about the flaws, but it is what CyTwins uses for SOS which is determined by Sagarin rankings.
I don't really care if its more than him, I'm just saying there's some flaws.

I'm not using dumb **** that Benji posted to define what you are using as a resource.
 

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I don't really care if its more than him, I'm just saying there's some flaws.

I'm not using dumb **** that Benji posted to define what you are using as a resource.

So there are also flaws in their SOS rankings too?
 

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So there are also flaws in their SOS rankings too?
I don't know, I'm not going to spend the time to go thru their formula.
I just was saying I don't think an 8 win Miss St is better than a 10 win Texas, LSU, or Flordia. You had to turn it into being obsessed about Twins though. Sigh.
 
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I don't know, I'm not going to spend the time to go thru their formula.
I just was saying I don't think an 8 win Miss St is better than a 10 win Texas, LSU, or Flordia. You had to turn it into being obsessed about Twins though. Sigh.

Nope, just saying if you believe their actual rankings are flawed, then you must also believe their SOS rankings are flawed.
 

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Nope, just saying if you believe their actual rankings are flawed, then you must also believe their SOS rankings are flawed.
I'm sure there are SOS flaws but dude, you went straight into being concerned about what he uses. It literally had zero to do with him.
Again, I'm not using what Benji believed in to try and do a "got ya" to you.
 
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I'm sure there are SOS flaws but dude, you went straight into being concerned about what he uses. It literally had zero to do with him.
Again, I'm not using what Benji believed in to try and do a "got ya" to you.

Just funny how ISU fans will defend SOS rankings.
 
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