College Savings Iowa (529) vs savings account

Pat

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With the recent birth of our first child, it is time to establish a college/savings account. We are trying to determine whether or not a 529 or online savings account would be better. Anyone use the iowa 529? Can someone help with some general guidance? Is the Iowa 529 the best option? Is there a huge tax benefit for Iowa? You can also use a 529 account to pay for K-12 expenses?

Concerns we have with the 529 is the limited use of funds that the account can be used for. For instance, if our child decides to forgo a 4 year degree and go into a trade, what can one do with the left over funds? Is it worth it if in the end that happens, would paying the withdrawal fees still put a person further ahead than just a 1.00% interest savings account?

We would use Ally and their high interest for saving account as we already use them, currently 1.00%.

Initial monthly contributions would be $50-100.

I don’t know enough to say that a 529 is the right choice, but I am confident that a savings account at 1% is the wrong one. If you’re uncomfortable with the restrictions of a 529, Coverdell, or Roth IRA, then open a brokerage account. Compare the rate of tuition increases vs 1% - you’re losing ground.
 

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You can set up a 529 plan for your kids and also not put money into it. If you have well off parents (grand parents), they can deposit money into the 529 as well for Tax purposes.
The grandparents ought have their own for their tax benefit.
 

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We chose the Iowa 529 plan for the state tax benefit (saves us $800ish a year) and the money can only used for educational purposes. If one of my kids doesnt use it then I will just buy a boat and name it 529.
 

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Same boat. I've kicked this around for over a year now. I'm not sold on the 529 at all.

I am totally sold on 529's. I did it for my kids and they should have college mostly taken care of if they go to ISU. Plus the tax benefit was nice all along the way.
 

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Invested 40,000 in 2008 in an Iowa529, was looking for tax shelters to protect a windfall. Used it to send my son to school from 2017-2020. Withdrew appoximately 48,000 over the kids 4 years at ISU, still have $28000 left for grad school, if he doesn't go to grad school; well either grand kids, or lost money. But I certainly got my 40 grand back, plus the tax shelter, probably saved about 12000 there! So it not only is return on investment, but also tax considerations that should drive your decision. Admittedly, those years before retirement I was in a high tax bracket.

Edit: My tax attorney considered it federally deductible at that time. Maybe now, with the 25000 exemption, it isnt. Check with your tax advisor! or the IRS, and thank the President if not!
In no way should your contributions and earnings be considered "lost money". It is always yours, no matter how you use / spend it. The only differentiation is that if you spend it on non-qualifying educational expenses, you pay a penalty (on the earnings portion only) that is roughly equivalent to the state tax benefit you originally received on contributions. At least that's for the Iowa plan.

I was a long-time 529 skeptic, but have come around in the last few years. Rather than pay the state additional income tax owed, I opened a 529 account and ended up with a state refund instead. Amounted to about an instant 9% ROI.
 
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My wife and i each have an account for each kid to max out the state deduction. Not having to pay any taxes on earnings is the bigger benefit however if you invest early.
 

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Whoever puts money in that account gets the tax benefit.
Here is a succinct explanation. Your scenario is not correct:
Tax deductions for Iowa taxpayers
Iowa taxpayers who are Participants can deduct up to $3,439 for 2020 (adjusted annually for inflation) of their contributions per Beneficiary, including rollovers, in determining their adjusted gross income for Iowa income tax purposes. This deduction applies to each Beneficiary account they own and contribute to. For example, married Participants who contribute to separate accounts on behalf of their two children can deduct up to $13,756 (4 x $3,439) in 2020. **

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We chose the Iowa 529 plan for the state tax benefit (saves us $800ish a year) and the money can only used for educational purposes. If one of my kids doesnt use it then I will just buy a boat and name it 529.
For tax free use of the money it must be used for qualified education expenses. It can be taken out as explained earlier.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Here is a succinct explanation. Your scenario is not correct:
Tax deductions for Iowa taxpayers
Iowa taxpayers who are Participants can deduct up to $3,439 for 2020 (adjusted annually for inflation) of their contributions per Beneficiary, including rollovers, in determining their adjusted gross income for Iowa income tax purposes. This deduction applies to each Beneficiary account they own and contribute to. For example, married Participants who contribute to separate accounts on behalf of their two children can deduct up to $13,756 (4 x $3,439) in 2020. **

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Thanks for the clarification. My statement was wrong.
 

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Thanks for the clarification. My statement was wrong.
No worries. Illinois allows spouses to have one account per kid and get the deduction for both in one account. Iowa does not. It is confusing as each state Has their own design.
 

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No worries. Illinois allows spouses to have one account per kid and get the deduction for both in one account. Iowa does not. It is confusing as each state Has their own design.

I’m pretty sure grandparents can put in the full amount though for the grand children though too can’t they?
 

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No worries. Illinois allows spouses to have one account per kid and get the deduction for both in one account. Iowa does not. It is confusing as each state Has their own design.
Let me get this straight, in Iowa technically each spouse has to have their own account and contribute separately to maximize the annual tax benefit? If so, that is 2 years we have done it wrong (since I contributed on my wife's behalf in my account) but they still allowed us to deduct it.
 

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Let me get this straight, in Iowa technically each spouse has to have their own account and contribute separately to maximize the annual tax benefit? If so, that is 2 years we have done it wrong (since I contributed on my wife's behalf in my account) but they still allowed us to deduct it.
Correct.
 

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I’m pretty sure grandparents can put in the full amount though for the grand children though too can’t they?
estate tax benefits of a 529?
Money you contribute to a 529 account is generally treated as a completed gift to your student, but as the participant, you still have control over it. If you die with money remaining in your account, it will not be included in your estate for federal estate tax purposes.

However, if you took advantage of the option to treat a single $75,000 contribution ($150,000 for married couples) to a 529 plan account as if it was made over 5 years and you die within 5 years of contributing, a prorated portion of the contribution will be subject to estate tax.
 

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