College Football Playoff expanding in 2024

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They had me until I saw the dates- Dec 21 for 1st round games and Jan 20 for Championship.

I have sport ADD & will have lost interest by Jan 20 when the regular season ends late Nov.

With a 12 team playoff, I struggle to see the need to even have CCG's. Why not 1st round early Dec and go from there to end college football season by New Years?

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They had me until I saw the dates- Dec 21 for 1st round games and Jan 20 for Championship.

I have sport ADD & will have lost interest by Jan 20 when the regular season ends late Nov.

With a 12 team playoff, I struggle to see the need to even have CCG's. Why not 1st round early Dec and go from there to end college football season by New Years?
CCG's will exist because....$$. $$ is pretty much the answer to any question.
 

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CCG's will exist because....$$. $$ is pretty much the answer to any question.
This. Additionally, with conference champions getting an automatic bid to the playoff, there will be plenty of reasons for them to exist. This week's ACC title game, for example, would be plenty compelling. Winner to the playoff. Loser is out. That's the kind of drama that would drive viewership, compared to this year, when the outcome has no meaning to the CFP.
 

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CCG's will exist because....$$. $$ is pretty much the answer to any question.
I agree that greed will keep Championships. And I think they serve the purpose of determining a conference champion when there are 16 team conferences.

But what happens when a team ranked 8-12 loses their Conference Championship game and gets knocked out of the playoff?

Seems to me, with 6 auto berths, the Playoff Committee should announce the 12 playoff teams before the CCG. Maybe they can can wait on the seeding until after the CCG.
 

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This. Additionally, with conference champions getting an automatic bid to the playoff, there will be plenty of reasons for them to exist. This week's ACC title game, for example, would be plenty compelling. Winner to the playoff. Loser is out. That's the kind of drama that would drive viewership, compared to this year, when the outcome has no meaning to the CFP.
But is the rule Conference Champions will get a bid or the highest rated team?

For instance, this year if Purdue, LSU, UNC or KSU win their CCG does anyone really want to see them in the playoff?

I hope the committee's role will be to take the best 12 teams.
 
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But is the rule Conference Champions will get a bid or the highest rated team?

For instance, this year if Purdue, LSU, UNC or KSU win their CCG does anyone really want to see them in the playoff?

I hope the committee's role will be to take the best 12 teams.
If you win your conference you absolutely should be in the playoff. Am I saying it'll make the best product? Probably not. But FBS college football is quite literally the only sport on any level where winning your conference/division/etc. doesn't give you a chance to win a championship. It's asinine
 
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But is the rule Conference Champions will get a bid or the highest rated team?

For instance, this year if Purdue, LSU, UNC or KSU win their CCG does anyone really want to see them in the playoff?

I hope the committee's role will be to take the best 12 teams.
For this playoff structure to work, absolutely need to have the auto bids. That doesn't mean conference auto slots should be seeded highest ... just means they're in the field. Then at-large are selected and it's seeded from there. At least I hope that's the intention. (I haven't delved too far yet).

And yeah, using your example, if all of those 4 teams somehow won in a season like this, the pool would be weaker if it bumps out some teams from at-large that might be better. But also keep in mind -- in a 12-team format, the current top 3 league regular season winners are in for sure regardless (Georgia, U-M, TCU) ... difference between Clemson and UNC is close to a wash anyway.
 

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Only a decade plus late.

The bowls should have nothing to do with this. College football does NOT exist to cater to them. They are entities that made tons of $$$ and want to continue to do so. Why college football appeases them I have no idea.
 

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I’m afraid that the first round will essentially be spoiler games, not unlike most conference championship games this weekend.
 

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They should also cap the number of teams from a conference that can go. Due to their teams being constantly overrated and their quality of wins being constantly overrated for beating each other (when overrated in the first place), the SEC has a HUGE advantage in these rankings. If you aren't top 3 in your conference, you shouldn't be in a playoff. They shouldn't be rewarded for accumulating brands and trying to capitalize on a rigged system. They've done that enough already.
 

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They had me until I saw the dates- Dec 21 for 1st round games and Jan 20 for Championship.

I have sport ADD & will have lost interest by Jan 20 when the regular season ends late Nov.

With a 12 team playoff, I struggle to see the need to even have CCG's. Why not 1st round early Dec and go from there to end college football season by New Years?
How do you suggest they play 4 weeks of games in less than 4 weeks?
 

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But is the rule Conference Champions will get a bid or the highest rated team?

For instance, this year if Purdue, LSU, UNC or KSU win their CCG does anyone really want to see them in the playoff?

I hope the committee's role will be to take the best 12 teams.
I just re-read the story and it's the 6 highest ranked conference champions. That's going to include a Group of 5 champ, some years. But in others, it's definitely possible that a team ranked in the lower part of the top 25 will get in.
Under the new system, LSU would definitely be in with a win. KSU as well. Purdue, probably not, but UNC might jump the winner of the AAC title game, if they beat Clemson.
 

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They should also cap the number of teams from a conference that can go. Due to their teams being constantly overrated and their quality of wins being constantly overrated for beating each other (when overrated in the first place), the SEC has a HUGE advantage in these rankings. If you aren't top 3 in your conference, you shouldn't be in a playoff. They shouldn't be rewarded for accumulating brands and trying to capitalize on a rigged system. They've done that enough already.
Zero chance of that happening. The Big 10 and SEC would likely never agree to the format, if the number of teams per conference was capped, and like it or not, they have the clout to get their way on this.
 
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They had me until I saw the dates- Dec 21 for 1st round games and Jan 20 for Championship.

I have sport ADD & will have lost interest by Jan 20 when the regular season ends late Nov.

With a 12 team playoff, I struggle to see the need to even have CCG's. Why not 1st round early Dec and go from there to end college football season by New Years?

What? That's crazy?

The superbowl doesn't even take that amount of time off for hype. I wonder what their thinking is there.

If a Big 12 team isn't involved I'll have COMPLETELY lost interest after most other teams have been done for a full month.
 
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But is the rule Conference Champions will get a bid or the highest rated team?

For instance, this year if Purdue, LSU, UNC or KSU win their CCG does anyone really want to see them in the playoff?

I hope the committee's role will be to take the best 12 teams.

*6 highest-ranked conference champions
*6 at-large teams
*top 4 conference champs get first-round bye

Example, with 2021 rankings:

Rankings [Seed]
1. [1] Alabama (SEC champ)
2. [2] Michigan (Big Ten champ)
3. [5] Georgia (at-large)
4. [3] Cincinnati (AAC champ)
5. [6] Notre Dame (at-large)
6. [7] Ohio State (at-large)
7. [4] Baylor (Big 12 champ)
8. [8] Ole Miss (at-large)
9. [9] Oklahoma State (at-large)
10. [10] Michigan State (at-large)
11. [11] Utah (Pac-12 champ)
12. [12] Pittsburgh (ACC champ)

Round 1
9 Oklahoma State at 8 Ole Miss
12 Pittsburgh at 5 Georgia
11 Utah at 6 Notre Dame
10 Michigan State at 7 Ohio State

Quarterfinals (using 2024 sites)
Sugar: 1 Alabama vs 8/9
Fiesta: 4 Baylor vs 5/12
Peach: 3 Cincinnati vs 6/11
Rose: 2 Michigan vs 7/10

Semifinals (using 2024 sites)
Cotton: 1 vs 4
Orange: 2 vs 3
 

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What? That's crazy?

The superbowl doesn't even take that amount of time off for hype. I wonder what their thinking is there.

There are 4 rounds of games in that month. 9-10 days between rounds instead of 7 days.

12/21 - Round 1
12/30-1/1 - Quarterfinals
1/10-1/11 - Semifinals
1/20 - Championship
 

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Get rid of the bowls. Every single one.

Get in the playoff or you're done. Play at the higher seeds home stadium.

Maybe they could have a playoff for the small conferences.

Actually, just put any team not in one of the power five leagues (except for Notre Dame) in a new "lower" division and they can have their own championship tournament.
 

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Get rid of the bowls. Every single one.

Get in the playoff or you're done. Play at the higher seeds home stadium.

Maybe they could have a playoff for the small conferences.

Actually, just put any team not in one of the power five leagues (except for Notre Dame) in a new "lower" division and they can have their own championship tournament.

To be honest...I am not far from that line of thinking! However, a team that struggles at the beginning of a season and goes 1-3 for whatever reason might as well completely cash it in on October 1. That would result in completely meaningless games for teams in that situation for a couple of months.
 

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But is the rule Conference Champions will get a bid or the highest rated team?

For instance, this year if Purdue, LSU, UNC or KSU win their CCG does anyone really want to see them in the playoff?

I hope the committee's role will be to take the best 12 teams.

You would just put Georgia, Michigan and TCU in as at large bids. Maybe Clemson doesn't get in. Works the same with basketball. Teams get bumped out with upsets.
 
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To be honest...I am not far from that line of thinking! However, a team that struggles at the beginning of a season and goes 1-3 for whatever reason might as well completely cash it in on October 1. That would result in completely meaningless games for teams in that situation for a couple of months.


Yep. Maybe they can play out the string to fulfill their NIL deals.
 
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