Coaches screaming in the face of players

BCClone

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Not exactly sure.
I'm curious, do you think it motivated you? The question for me isn't does the coach have a right to yell at players, it's whether or not it actually motivates them. If you become immune to it, it seems like it would cease to become an effective motivational tool. I think this is the OP's original point.

For me it didn't, some it did. I seemed to get more than the rest and after getting beat on enough, I actually messed up more.
 

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For me it didn't, some it did. I seemed to get more than the rest and after getting beat on enough, I actually messed up more.
Yea me too. I still see the coach sometimes when I get back to my hometown, I consider knocking him out most of the time, but I refrain.
 

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I read it as screaming incessantly at players is mean. That is why I said its college and you can choose that school or not.

The point of using it as a tool and not constantly to hold effectiveness I totally agree with.
 

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Greg McDermotts recent outbust on his son got me thinking about the point of embarassing a player on national TV. I have had a coach scream at me in my face to the effect of what Doug (or Taylor Martinez, or the entire Hawk BBall team (chair scene)), and I think I heard the 1st 2 words of the tirade, then the rest went in 1 ear and out the other. I knew I screwed up and believe it or not I was thinking in my mind about how I needed to re-focus and be sharp. I didnt need a coach embarassing and belittling me to get the point across.

Some of you are gonna think Fred Hoiberg/Chris Allen situation. It was different, it didnt go on and on, Fred got his point across and it was done, we saw a better Chris Allen after that. Greg McDermott (Bo Pelini, Fran McCaffrey) should be ashamed of themselves, they were ******** they werent coaching. Especially Greg McDermott you dont do that to your son, and I have 3 of them so I know. Greg should be used to late season meltdowns they happened at UNI, and they happened in the 2nd halves at ISU. The man cant make adjustments to save his life. When a team sees his team the second time in a season they have adjusted but he hasnt.

I am going to not scathe you becaue you clearly have no idea what goes on at the Division 1 level or how these relationshoips work. These coaches get paid millions and you want them to baby players?

Have you ever watched Coach K? Roy Williams? Our own Tim Floyd or the beloved Larry Eustachy? All of these guys chew ***, all the time. Larry said stuff to our guys you can't even imagine. The players get it, it is a non-event and you can turn on the TV any night and see any coach in any league do it. It just isn't always on camera. Awful post.
 

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Ok you got me there. LE was a screamer and his program was gradually getting worse with more and more players defecting. Granted he is righting his ship down south. Point is I just dont agree with it.


I like coaches that show some fire for the game but agree that some take it too far and just end up looking silly. If you've ever seen Mike Stoops on the sidelines you know what I'm talking about.
 

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Doesn't phase me, had a hs football coach that would do it and then slap the side of your helmet as hard as he could. Ears would ring for minutes. One hs basketball coach screamed no matter what, so I'm kinda immune to this.

This is college, you got to pick where you went.

Over the line. The attitude that this is somehow ok because it's football is dumb as hell. Yell all you want but don't put your hands on my kid unless you want my hands doing the same to you.
 

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I'm surprised we've seen no posts to the effect of "this is why america is soft." But more on point Coaches yelling at players isn't really that effective in my opinion. Maybe discussing in a loud and honest manner is conveying the seriousness of the message, but yelling doesnt seem useful for getting someone over the yips.
 

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As a coach, you need to know what works for your players. Some players work well when they are screamed at: they see it as a challenge, an encouragement or deterrent from being shamed for the second time. Some players just need to be told: do better and they'll play better.

At the same time, as a player, you need to know how your prospective coach acts during the recruiting process.

It's always 2-way process.

I have no problem coaches screamign in the face of players during the game. I have problems with coaches blaming players (or certain players) when the team lost.
 

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I read it as screaming incessantly at players is mean. That is why I said its college and you can choose that school or not.

The point of using it as a tool and not constantly to hold effectiveness I totally agree with.
I hear you there and agree, but a line was crossed with the above examples
 

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I'm surprised we've seen no posts to the effect of "this is why america is soft." But more on point Coaches yelling at players isn't really that effective in my opinion. Maybe discussing in a loud and honest manner is conveying the seriousness of the message, but yelling doesnt seem useful for getting someone over the yips.

Take a look at Creighton's box score from last night and tell me it wasn't effective...

Creighton Bluejays vs. Southern Illinois Salukis - Box Score - February 14, 2012 - ESPN
 

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I'm surprised we've seen no posts to the effect of "this is why america is soft." But more on point Coaches yelling at players isn't really that effective in my opinion. Maybe discussing in a loud and honest manner is conveying the seriousness of the message, but yelling doesnt seem useful for getting someone over the yips.
This +1000
 

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I'm surprised we've seen no posts to the effect of "this is why america is soft." But more on point Coaches yelling at players isn't really that effective in my opinion. Maybe discussing in a loud and honest manner is conveying the seriousness of the message, but yelling doesnt seem useful for getting someone over the yips.

Certainly not helpful for the yips (but then again, what IS effective against the yips?). But I didn't mind having a coach get in my face. Was it embarrassing? Sure. That's the point. There is such a thing as taking that too far (Pelini stalking after Martinez comes to mind), but in many cases I think people just need to toughen up. Herb Brooks wasn't always the cheeriest person on earth, but I'll be damned if he's not one of the greatest coaches of all time.

It can definitely be effective, if it's a tool used properly.
 

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You know what I saw with that box score? Southern Illinois 8-19, they suck. I would hope Creighton would have their way with them.

Okay, how about McCaffrey and the chair-slamming? Next game out they beat No. 13 Michigan by 16.

The posts like yours here really only serve to show that this really is a McDermott hate-thread.
 

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Okay, how about McCaffrey and the chair-slamming? Next game out they beat No. 13 Michigan by 16.

The posts like yours here really only serve to show that this really is a McDermott hate-thread.
Call it what you want the point was he and the others I mentioned crossed a line.
 

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