Bowlsby goes on the record with UT/OU and the Big12

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With all of my fiber and being, I truly hope that OU and Texas get stuck with the 11:00 am timeslots for the remainder of their Big 12 existence. **** both of them.
 

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Pinkel went 7-1- in years two and three in the SEC. After that 2014 season it was all going to fall apart because they had lost their Texas recruiting pipeline. Sine that last 7-1 season Mizzou hasn't finished above .500 in league play. To say that they haven't struggled in the SEC is false.
Mizzou got what they wanted... more $ and less success. Texas; You're up next!
 
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I hope they are forced to stick around for 2 years with the newcomers. It would make such good entertainment. Texas playing at Houston? OU traveling to UCF?

Inject that **** straight into my veins
 

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I hope they are forced to stick around for 2 years with the newcomers. It would make such good entertainment. Texas playing at Houston? OU traveling to UCF?
I can guarantee you that game will not happen whether the game is at UH or UT. UT and ESPN will buy out the GOR and leave the B12 to avoid that game.
 

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I hope they are forced to stick around for 2 years with the newcomers. It would make such good entertainment. Texas playing at Houston? OU traveling to UCF?

Inject that **** straight into my veins

I think they should both get to play at Cincy late in the year.

With a complementary meal from Skyline right before kickoff.
 

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also I think ou is far more at risk of becoming irrelevant in the sec than texas

the longhorns inability to perform is mostly self-inflicted and cultural, but they are still going to get the top recruits in texas (so if they get a coach who can handle the nonsense, they can have some success)

or maybe they'll figure out how to modify the sec rulebook to systematically destroy their competition kind of like how they dealt with nebraska

ou on the other hand I think could be a bad hire away from turning into like an arkansas -- I don't know if moving to the sec will be positive or not for them (it may work out but it's a way bigger, and perhaps unnecessary, gamble than texas imo)

arkansas won 13 conference championships in the swc and has won 0 in the sec
 
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also I think ou is far more at risk of becoming irrelevant in the sec than texas

the longhorns inability to perform is mostly self-inflicted and cultural, but they are still going to get the top recruits in texas (so if they get a coach who can handle the nonsense, they can have some success)

or maybe they'll figure out how to modify the sec rulebook to systematically destroy their competition kind of like how they dealt with nebraska

ou on the other hand I think could be a bad hire away from turning into like an arkansas -- I don't know if moving to the sec will be positive or not for them (it may work out but it's a way bigger, and perhaps unnecessary, gamble than texas imo)

arkansas won 13 conference championships in the swc and has won 0 in the sec
It wasn't all historical cobweb Championships for Arkansas either. The Razorbacks won back to back SWC Championships in 1988 and 1989 - which led them to be invited to the SEC. fyi: First year in the SEC was 1992,
 
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Texas really screwed up a good thing with the Big 12. It was as great league from a competitive standpoint. In basketball it is always, year in and year out one of the best basketball leagues, and in football the Big 12 has been really good too. Once the Big 12 got established as a league, other leagues had a very very difficult time recruiting in Texas. Michigan and Ohio State, couldn't even get players down there consistently. No, most of the good Texas recruits stayed in the Big 12. All the teams played in Texas so if you didn't go to a Texas school, you would still be in Texas for a couple of games each year. Most of the northern schools had a minimum of 25 Texans on their roster each year. Now schools like Missouri, Nebraska, and Colorado have lost their Texas supply line. Texas A and M opened up the SEC to come into the state. It is way different now. Texas lowered the perception and prestige of the league (which has nothing to do with competitiveness on the field in this case) and now they blame the league? Texas had a good setup that basically meant they get the pick of the litter. Although Texas always recruits well, it is not at the elite level it once was and they have way more competition for the recruits. They screwed up a good thing.
 
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Mizzou got what they wanted... more $ and less success. Texas; You're up next!

Pinkel did retire due to cancer(?) which set the program back. He had the program seeing their best era of success along with playing in 2 Big 12/SEC championship games. Not sure what problems the program had in 2015 leading to the poor record though at the end. Injuries ravaged the team in 2012 when they 1st joined the SEC.

To me it's a great illustration of a guy really exceling at a non traditional power, but subsequent hires probably going about as expected for people on the outside. I think Pinkel would have continued in a far more competitive manner than Odom and Drinkwitz. I think those guys would have had issues in the Big 12 as well.
 
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Texas really screwed up a good thing with the Big 12. It was as great league from a competitive standpoint. In basketball it is always, year in and year out one of the best basketball leagues, and in football the Big 12 has been really good too. Once the Big 12 got established as a league, other leagues had a very very difficult time recruiting in Texas. Michigan and Ohio State, couldn't even get players down there consistently. No, most of the good Texas recruits stayed in the Big 12. All the teams played in Texas so if you didn't go to a Texas school, you would still be in Texas for a couple of games each year. Most of the northern schools had a minimum of 25 Texans on their roster each year. Now schools like Missouri, Nebraska, and Colorado have lost their Texas supply line. Texas A and M opened up the SEC to come into the state. It is way different now. Texas lowered the perception and prestige of the league (which has nothing to do with competitiveness on the field in this case) and now they blame the league? Texas had a good setup that basically meant they get the pick of the litter. Although Texas always recruits well, it is not at the elite level it once was and they have way more competition for the recruits. They screwed up a good thing.
It seems to me aTm was the school that broke the dam, not UT. Texas is a latecomer, obviously, along with OU. But it was the Aggies that took Texas recruits to the SEC. Had they not left, I don't believe we would have had this Horns' defection today. Anyway, I hope ISU kicks their ass.
 

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