Bounced in field goal?

[HFCS]

OK so in the ASU Texas game a field goal was blocked, landed in bounds, and bounced through uprights. Immediately ruled no good.

1. Are we positive this is the rule?
2. If this is the rule, isn’t it kind of irrational since you could pick that up off the bounce and run for 6?
3. It happens so rarely is this not just a fun killing rule?
4. Just for argument’s sake, if the call was correct, is the ball dead after it passes through uprights, or dead when it hits out of bounds? Not that it matters…but if it’s dead out of bounds you kicked a live ball through the uprights! The block doesn’t make it no good, the ground doesn’t make it unreturnable, but the ground does make it no good, but the ground doesn’t make a drop kick no good?

 

[WooBadger18]

OK so in the ASU Texas game a field goal was blocked, landed in bounds, and bounced through uprights. Immediately ruled no good.

1. Are we positive this is the rule?
2. If this is the rule, isn’t it kind of irrational since you could pick that up off the bounce and run for 6?
3. It happens so rarely is this not just a fun killing rule?
4. Just for argument’s sake, if the call was correct, is the ball dead after it passes through uprights, or dead when it hits out of bounds? Not that it matters…but if it’s dead out of bounds you kicked a live ball through the uprights! The block doesn’t make it no good, the ground doesn’t make it unreturnable, but the ground does make it no good, but the ground doesn’t make a drop kick no good?

Can you pick it up off the bounce? I thought you could only return it if you caught it.

 

[BCClone]

OK so in the ASU Texas game a field goal was blocked, landed in bounds, and bounced through uprights. Immediately ruled no good.

1. Are we positive this is the rule?
2. If this is the rule, isn’t it kind of irrational since you could pick that up off the bounce and run for 6?
3. It happens so rarely is this not just a fun killing rule?
4. Just for argument’s sake, if the call was correct, is the ball dead after it passes through uprights, or dead when it hits out of bounds? Not that it matters…but if it’s dead out of bounds you kicked a live ball through the uprights! The block doesn’t make it no good, the ground doesn’t make it unreturnable, but the ground does make it no good, but the ground doesn’t make a drop kick no good?

Why you don’t go to AI for the rules. I’ve heard this played to me and it’s not right.

 

[HFCS]

Can you pick it up off the bounce? I thought you could only return it if you caught it.

A blocked field goal definitely can and this was blocked.

A blocked field goal that goes through the upright and counts isn’t that rare. The rare part is also hitting the ground.

 

[MJ271]

OK so in the ASU Texas game a field goal was blocked, landed in bounds, and bounced through uprights. Immediately ruled no good.

1. Are we positive this is the rule?
2. If this is the rule, isn’t it kind of irrational since you could pick that up off the bounce and run for 6?
3. It happens so rarely is this not just a fun killing rule?
4. Just for argument’s sake, if the call was correct, is the ball dead after it passes through uprights, or dead when it hits out of bounds? Not that it matters…but if it’s dead out of bounds you kicked a live ball through the uprights! The block doesn’t make it no good, the ground doesn’t make it unreturnable, but the ground does make it no good, but the ground doesn’t make a drop kick no good?

Sadly, this is addressed in the rulebook.

Rule 8, Section 4, Article 1

A field goal shall be scored if a scrimmage kick, which may be a drop kick or place kick, passes over the crossbar between the uprights of the receiving team’s goal before it touches a player of the kicking team or the ground.

https://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/FR24_20240724.pdf

 

[HFCS]

Sadly, this is addressed in the rulebook.

Rule 8, Section 4, Article 1

https://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/FR24_20240724.pdf

So it’s live for the defense pick it up and score a TD, but it’s dead to score a fg when it hits the ground after being kicked (but still live for fg after being blocked).

Seems irrational given that it’s live to score for other team but good to know it’s at least in the rules that way.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

Sadly, this is addressed in the rulebook.

Rule 8, Section 4, Article 1

https://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/FR24_20240724.pdf

So if it ricochets off an O-linemans helmet and goes over, it also doesn't count? I wasn't aware of that rule.

 

[HFCS]

So if it ricochets off an O-linemans helmet and goes over, it also doesn't count? I wasn't aware of that rule.

I’m guessing lots of officials would get that one wrong in real time, the ASU kick didn’t seem good to me live until I thought about it days later. I definitely thought “no good”.

Hitting a lineman’s helmet wouldn’t seem different to me live than a defender’s hand but I guess it’s no different than the offense downing the blocked fg.

 

[LeaningCy]

So if it ricochets off an O-linemans helmet and goes over, it also doesn't count? I wasn't aware of that rule.

Oh no, now I'm imagining a Big 12 conference championship game-winning last second FG being ruled no good after video review because it grazed our OL's helmet.

 

[Letterkenny]

So it’s live for the defense pick it up and score a TD, but it’s dead to score a fg when it hits the ground after being kicked (but still live for fg after being blocked).

Seems irrational given that it’s live to score for other team but good to know it’s at least in the rules that way.

There are lots of irrational rules. The one I always hated is that fumbling out of bounds in the end zone results in a touchback for the defense.

 

[Letterkenny]

I’m guessing lots of officials would get that one wrong in real time, the ASU kick didn’t seem good to me live until I thought about it days later. I definitely thought “no good”.

Hitting a lineman’s helmet wouldn’t seem different to me live than a defender’s hand but I guess it’s no different than the offense downing the blocked fg.

I'm guessing it can't touch an offensive player because you could pooch a kick over to another player and have them throw it through the uprights.

 

[wxman1]

There are lots of irrational rules. The one I always hated is that fumbling out of bounds in the end zone results in a touchback for the defense.

Yeah like having to have your pants pulled down to your knees or your jersey pulled down. F that ****.

 

[wcamnclone]

There are lots of irrational rules. The one I always hated is that fumbling out of bounds in the end zone results in a touchback for the defense.

Exactly, but a forward fumble that goes out of bounds at any other point returns back to the spot of where the fumble occurs for the offense. Such a dumb rule.

 

[HFCS]

I'm guessing it can't touch an offensive player because you could pooch a kick over to another player and have them throw it through the uprights.

A lineman’s helmet making it no good seems totally rational to me. The ground doesn’t since the defense can return it off the ground. Just glad to know real rule. CF genius found it faster than google search.

 

[Cyhig]

Seen this mentioned on X, as someone used Chat GPT as a source that claimed a FG kick can bounce through the uprights counts as 3 points

This is a good reminder that it is always best to use original sources (ncaa rulebook in this case) instead of relying on AI. It takes much more work and effort, but you would at least not look like a fool

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Blocked field goals can only be returned if they don't cross the line of scrimmage.

 

[Clonehomer]

Let’s bring back the drop kick FG. Think of the crazy fake plays you could do with no holder and extra offensive player.

 

[MJ271]

Seen this mentioned on X, as someone used Chat GPT as a source that claimed a FG kick can bounce through the uprights counts as 3 points

This is a good reminder that it is always best to use original sources (ncaa rulebook in this case) instead of relying on AI. It takes much more work and effort, but you would at least not look like a fool

^^^ Absolutely. ChatGPT doesn't go to the rulebook and find the answer. It's really just predicting how a person might answer the question. So sometimes that answer might be correct, but often it's not if you're asking a very specific question. In that sense, it's no more reliable than asking a random person on the internet what they think the answer is (without looking it up).

 

[NATEizKING]

Wrong sport but the rule I hate is a kicked ball resetting the shot clock

 

[theshadow]

Blocked field goals can only be returned if they don't cross the line of scrimmage.

If it doesn't pass the LOS, it's live for either team to advance.

If it does pass the LOS, the defense can advance it but the offense can't -- unless the defense touches it first.