Big 12/SEC Challenge comes to an end. Thank god.

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Given the ranking and how the teams have performed, it's not as good and the media and the fans have touted.

Big 12 went 7-3 against the top of the SEC, and as mentioned 2 of those were on the road where the big12 had significant injury issues and you think it's overratated? Let me get some of that is stuff you're smoking dude!
 

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If I ruled the world, I would make it so the conference slate started earlier take out a few cupcakes. Then require every conference play one of these early in late Nov or early December and another at the halfway point of the conference slate. I'd pair the second one with a bye and put that back.

That would kind recalibrate the ranking of the conferences once everyone had their identity figured out. BUT it only works if evey conference does one and it's set up fairly by like rpi or net for the conference pairings.
I would go the other way, and move the entire basketball season back another month, and start playing games over Christmas instead of Thanksgiving. Allowing basketball to move out of the shadow of football, and have April madness instead of March madness.

Basketball gets lost in the shuffle until the football regular season is over.
 

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Big 12 went 7-3 against the top of the SEC, and as mentioned 2 of those were on the road where the big12 had significant injury issues and you think it's overratated? Let me get some of that is stuff you're smoking dude!

All 3 Big 12 losses were on the road... and yes.... in two of them the Big 12 teams had significant injuries.

Big 12 dominated this showdown big time.
 

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I would go the other way, and move the entire basketball season back another month, and start playing games over Christmas instead of Thanksgiving. Allowing basketball to move out of the shadow of football, and have April madness instead of March madness.

Basketball gets lost in the shuffle until the football regular season is over.
Umm, not all of us are obsessed with football, there's plenty of room for both in November and December. Plus, losing the Thanksgiving tournaments would be a shame.

And I'm sorry, but after the brutal winters here I'm not sitting around all of April watching college basketball, I have stuff I need to do outside. It's perfect where it is in March.
 
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If the Big 12 finishes 7-3 then I think they have met expectations. Oklahoma was a major upset and a throttling of the #2 in America. Texas lost to the #4 in the country and TCU lost in OT without Lampkin and Miles. Iowa State played poorly. Not sure how you can’t come away impressed and with the understanding that the Big 12 is the #1 conference by far. 60% of the conference will have #4 seeds or better in the tournament. Everyone of those 6 teams would finish #1 or #2 in the Big 10.
After seeing the results as a whole I edit my comments. ISU is the one that is overrated.
 

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Someone should find the thread when this was announced to show all the people who loved the idea. Most were super excited about it.
It was also in early December originally which is where it should be.

I don't need to rehash all the reasons why it sucks for the Big 12 but I'm glad it's over with. Now maybe we can get back to having a bye week in case inquires to players like Grill happen in the season.

SEC has an unbalanced schedule with many bottom feeders to play, the Big 12 doesn't, so we are left with a meaningless game stuck right in the middle of an already brutal conference schedule.
 

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Big 12 went 7-3 against the top of the SEC, and as mentioned 2 of those were on the road where the big12 had significant injury issues and you think it's overratated? Let me get some of that is stuff you're smoking dude!
All the road teams lost except for KU and TTU. From first glance it seemed like B12 not performing up to expectation. In the end it was just ISU. If it was a close loss it wouldn't be an eye opener but the margin and how they performed is.
 

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All the road teams lost except for KU and TTU. From first glance it seemed like B12 not performing up to expectation. In the end it was just ISU. If it was a close loss it wouldn't be an eye opener but the margin and how they performed is.

ISU was down 2 starters though and ran into a complete buzzsaw. No doubt, ISU did not play well.... didn't take care of the ball and didn't seem to play with much energy at all.... but Mizzou was unconscious from 3 and played defense like they haven't all year. Their crowd was really good, and it just seemed like they had this game marked on their calendar all year.

With that being said.... I have a bad feeling about Monday. TT is playing WAY better than they did in Hilton, and we're struggling with injuries, etc... and this is on the road with only a couple days rest for an already tired looking team. I think TT wins by 6+.
 

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Im glad this is ending so we can play another challenge in December, as others have said.

I told my wife before the game that I hoped TJ just played the bench guys 25 minutes or more to give the rotation guys a breather. But when I saw a box score I realized we didnt have enough healthy guys to even do that. We shoulda just let the CEO cook for 35 minutes and see what happened.
 

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Given the ranking and how the teams have performed, it's not as good and the media and the fans have touted.
We won 7-3? TCU and us were down 2 starters too. What are you talking about?

Our 7th or 8th place team in OU beat their totally healthy 1st place team by 25 or so
 
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Umm, not all of us are obsessed with football, there's plenty of room for both in November and December. Plus, losing the Thanksgiving tournaments would be a shame.

And I'm sorry, but after the brutal winters here I'm not sitting around all of April watching college basketball, I have stuff I need to do outside. It's perfect where it is in March.
You may not be but the TV networks and most of the fans are. They were talking about this on the radio the other day, out of the 50 top rating shows on TV last year, 4 college basketball games, and the highest was the 23rd and 24th in the final four, the other two were at the bottom of the list, NFL owns TV, and that is where the money is. College basketball gets lost in the shuffle in November and December to the NFL, College football and bowl games.

Moving back the season a month will allow BB to get away from a majority of it, college football will be finishing up and the NFL will be in their last week and then playoffs. The gap for basketball to fill is between the NFL and baseball, the current setup gives away a whole month or more of valuable programing when few watch it.

 
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You may not be but the TV networks and most of the fans are. They were talking about this on the radio the other day, out of the 50 top rating shows on TV last year, 4 college basketball games, and the highest was the 23rd and 24th in the final four, the other two were at the bottom of the list, NFL owns TV, and that is where the money is. College basketball gets lost in the shuffle in November and December to the NFL, College football and bowl games.

Moving back the season a month will allow BB to get away from a majority of it, college football will be finishing up and the NFL will be in their last week and then playoffs. The gap for basketball to fill is between the NFL and baseball, the current setup gives away a whole month or more of valuable programing when few watch it.

April Madness then huh? That sounds awful, especially going up against baseball all month.
 
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April Madness then huh? That sounds awful, especially going up against baseball all month.
Baseball as much as I love it has become a reginal sport, and what a better time to take it on then when its starting and you have your championship games going on.

You may not like it, but the networks and a large segment of the fanbase would, and that is all that matters. I really think Christmas tournaments instead of Thanksgiving ones would do just fine.
 

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