B10 vs. B12 Bowl Games - Conference Comparisons

[HFCS]

Look at the Insight Bowl throughout the years. Big 12 owns the B1G's ***.

Plus this is about this year. Not other years.

Big Ten fans talking conference smack to Big 12 fans this year are beyond dumb. The Big Ten could win out and the Big 12 could lose out and the conference were still night and day this year.

It's no wonder Illinois backed out of their Missouri series. Head to head would likely be 4-0 for the Big 12 this year.

Just stings that ISU will be one of the very few bowl losses for the Big 12 this year, oh well, can't play a Big Ten cupcakes every non-conference game unfortunately.

 

[clone319]

we better walk on eggshells, would hate to upset any hawkeye fans

 

[aeazy]

This entire post is a huge contradiction in so many ways that you're likely too dense to see.

While alot of the crap he is saying is a contradiction, his main point is true. I hate it when my friends who went to Tennessee talk like they are amazing just because they are in the SEC, when in reality, they just suck.

Its kinda loserish when you have to to root for your opponents just to make you feel good about your team.

I've attended both the UofA and NC state and both suck alot, but i dont hang my hat on Oregon in football or Duke and UNC in basketball.

 

[HFCS]

While alot of the crap he is saying is a contradiction, his main point is true. I hate it when my friends who went to Tennessee talk like they are amazing just because they are in the SEC, when in reality, they just suck.

Its kinda loserish when you have to to root for your opponents just to make you feel good about your team.

I've attended both the UofA and NC state and both suck alot, but i dont hang my hat on Oregon in football or Duke and UNC in basketball.

So when NC State goes 7-5 in a weak ACC they're automatically better than every 6-6 SEC or Big 12 team according to you? If you agree with these idiots that's exactly what you're saying.

That's what this is all really about. In the years Iowa can't beat ISU on the field in REALITY, their fans obsess about the overall records. Iowa State didn't get automatic easy wins against Louisiana Mud Dogs, Tennessee Tech, Minnesota, and Indiana. Their conference is not big time top to bottom, it's peppered with Sun Belt sub 100 quality teams, so of course they want to compare records rather than an actual on field game where ISU turned the ball over a bazillion times and still beat Iowa.

 

[Omaha Cy]

Texas is still down and as was OU in the latter half of the year and the Big12 is 5-1.

Not bad so far.

 

[aeazy]

So when NC State goes 7-5 in a weak ACC they're automatically better than every 6-6 SEC or Big 12 team according to you? If you agree with these idiots that's exactly what you're saying.

That's what this is all really about. In the years Iowa can't beat ISU on the field in REALITY, their fans obsess about the overall records. Iowa State didn't get automatic easy wins against Louisiana Mud Dogs, Tennessee Tech, Minnesota, and Indiana. Their conference is not big time top to bottom, it's peppered with Sun Belt sub 100 quality teams, so of course they want to compare records rather than an actual on field game where ISU turned the ball over a bazillion times and still beat Iowa.

First of all, I dont really care for the whole Iowa-ISU peeing match. ISU was better, plain and simple.

Secondly, why do I have to compare NC State to an SEC team? Same with the UofA. NC State going 7-5 and the UofA going 4-8 has has hardly anything if nothing to do with the SEC, B1G, or B12. What I am saying though, is that I'm not gonna let what Oregon does to Wisconsin or what Vtech does to UM to make me feel better about my ****** teams.

But hey, if you want to use Oklahoma or OSU to make you feel better about ISU, go ahead.. Like i said though, its kind of loserish..

 

[IowaSTATCyclone]

Texas is still down and as was OU in the latter half of the year and the Big12 is 5-1.

Not bad so far.

I'm still pretty shocked at how badly OU beat the Hawkeyes. That was a very ragged program by the end of the year.

What would have been hilarious is if Purdue had lost to directional Michigan in the Detroit Bowl.

 

[M3MEPLEASE]

Look at the Insight Bowl throughout the years. Big 12 owns the B1G's ***.

Plus this is about this year. Not other years.

The Big 12 is currently 5-8 in the Cotton bowl against SEC teams which isn't completely horrible.

5-8 since 1999, the year the SEC and Big 12 starting facing each other in the Cotton every year, but have the last 3 have not been competitive. 0-2 vs the SEC in BCS games in that same time frame I believe. Also, several OOC losses to Arkansas, but at least you don't have to claim A&M anymore. The Big 10 is 8-6 in the Capital One bowl(most similar bowl to Cotton) vs the SEC in that same time frame. The Big 10 has actually done pretty decent in the Outback and Capital One bowls given the SEC's home field advantage.

5-2 in the Insight, but 4 of those wins coming against Minnesota and Indiana. The Big 10 went 8-7 against the Big 12 in the Alamo. Not to mention, many of these games are not even match-ups from both conferences with the Big 12 almost always having the advantage, for example unranked 5-6 loss Iowa teams having to face ranked Texas, OU, and Missouri in both bowls over the years. Pretty sure the Big 10 is 3-2 vs the Big 12 in BCS bowl games since they've started, but I may be wrong on that.

Is the Big 12 better than the Big 10 this season from top to bottom? Yep. I'm not disputing that. I just get a kick out of guys like HFCS thinking the Big 12 is at the SECs level because they are having one good season, coming off a pretty bad one. Big 12 fans like to make fun of the Big 10's bowl record last season, but they did equally as bad against a bunch of unranked opponents.

The Big 12 and Big 10 have actually been pretty similar over the past 10 years. Both have NC winners(although the Big 12 has had one more), both have had teams get completely embarrassed in NC games(Ohio State and OU) and both have struggled against SEC teams. Really, its been the SEC and everyone else for awhile now. I'll admit the Big 12 got robbed this season too with not getting 2 BCS teams and I was hoping OSU did play in the NC game, because I won't watch an SEC rematch. But Alabama and LSU are the two best teams IMO and both would beat OSU.

 

[SplitIdentity]

Big Ten bowl opponents are 88-37 (average of 8.8 - 3.7)

Big 12 bowl opponents are 63-32 (average of 7.88 - 4)

Take that how you will.

 

[AllIowaTeams]

I'm still pretty shocked at how badly OU beat the Hawkeyes. That was a very ragged program by the end of the year.

What would have been hilarious is if Purdue had lost to directional Michigan in the Detroit Bowl.

I wasn't surprised at all. It was essentially a 10 point loss not including the touchdown at the end once the game was decided.

Oklahoma and Iowa were both missing a few key players, but Oklahoma's backups are better than Iowa's starters. Oklahoma is a top 15 team with elite talent at basically every position. Iowa isn't even close to being a top 25 team with suspect talent at several positions, especially on defense. As disappointing as it is to admit I'm just glad Iowa wasn't completely blown out, and was very much in the game until the last half of the 4th quarter.

The Big 12 was hands down better than the Big 10 this year. It can't even be argued. However, the Big 12 has had much better matchups, and that can't be argued either. Oklahoma vs. Iowa and A&M vs. Northwestern were just ripe for the taking. Iowa and NW had no business in either of those games, and that's coming from a Big 10 fan.

 

[Clark]

Look at the Insight Bowl throughout the years. Big 12 owns the B1G's ***.

Plus this is about this year. Not other years.

The Big 12 is currently 5-8 in the Cotton bowl against SEC teams which isn't completely horrible.

but it's worse than the Big 10's record against the SEC.

If the last two years are any indication, the Big 12 should own the Big 10 in the Insight, they send teams that finished higher in their conference.

That's why when you campare conference bowl records, you also need to include the ranking of the teams they have beaten.