A message for Farnold Degand

[igotcloned]

After coach Wayne Morgan and his staff were fired, Degand began reconsidering his options. Under NCAA transfer rules, he'll have to sit out another season and have three to play. He's planning to appeal that rule once he chooses a school.
"I'm going to try and fight it," Degand said. "I believe my situation is a little bit different from an average transfer situation. I would hope (the NCAA) would be sympathetic to what I went through."

What you went through??? What have you gone through? You committed to Iowa State University, not Wayne Morgan, check your national letter of intent. If you came here thinking that Wayne Morgan would be here for all four of years, you got real bad information. You can never make that assumption, regardless of what institution you choose. If you go to Michigan, what happens when Ammaker gets fired? Will you leave again? Hell, Coach K at Duke damn near left a few years ago for a gig in the NBA. These things happen, and you cut bait and run. Did you visit Ames, IA before committing? Did you look to see where Ames is on a map?

PS: The NCAA is not sympathetic to anyone, and please do not feed them the "after all I have been through" line that you fed the local paper.

 

[JCloned]

I don't know...the NCAA has allowed many appeals that I didn't think would pass muster....(oh wait all those were for Kansas)

 

[mj4cy]

Can't agree more. Be a man and sit that year out or honor your commitment to ISU....not that hard.

 

[BryceC]

Yeah, he can hope all he wants, but the NCAA is merciless. Unless you're USC.

 

[mj4cy]

Here is a really really scientific super smart analysis of how the NCAA works (sometimes)

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$=rules? what are those

$$=screw you

 

[JCloned]

For Degand sake he will need to keep mjones NCAA analysis in mind when choosing a school

 

[RedStorm]

F*** him!...Bye! We don't want selfish players like him and Taggert.....

 

[JCloned]

What makes Degand selfish????

 

[mj4cy]

Agree with JCloned....He is not selfish for seeking a better situation for himself.....it is not wrong for him to want 4 years....he just isn't being realistic in my opinion.

 

[RedStorm]

Okay - I will get in a robust debate with you guys...

I don't agree with your guys theory that they are leaveing because they were recruited to play a "Run and Gun" offense." They are leaveing becaues McD is is laying it out for them! ISU will play as a team....ISU is going to work hard in the off-season and in practice. What blows your theory out is that McD already siad he is going to shape his team around the players he has. Which means we could see a completeley different style of play than we are used to seeing at UNI...Hence I bet we see Rashon Clark unleasHed next year!

These guys are leaving because McD is going to require them to work hard and play as a team...they are going to have ot show up to practice to play. McD is NOT going to play favorites.

The better situation is staying put....being a man and winning some games, and that is what is going to happen with ISU basketball.

So tell me how Degand sitting out 2-years and Taggert sitting out a year is a better situation. Its attitides like this that is going to make it better when ISU wins next year and those guys are sitting around thinking "Hmmmm.....maybe we should have stayed."


GO CYCLONES!!!!

 

[dbronco7sc]

I agree with you guys and I don't see his situation any different than any other player who had a coach leave. He will sit a year if he transfers to a D1 school... he'll have to deal with that. And after all he has been through... I do think that is kinda rediculus... he got a free year of education at ISU and got to sit up high and mighty on the firetruck at the parade without ever playing a single game in an ISU uniform. He was loved by many before he even took his first shot in a game and now he wants to leave instead of take a guaranteed starting spot at guard. But his request of release forced McD to take action and fill his spot on the team with excellent recruits. Everything he is going through is his choice. He will have no mercy from the NCAA. I wish him good luck where ever he goes but I don't think he should deserve special treatment over any other coaching change transfer.

 

[kberyldial]

It's still free will. Have you ever changed jobs? Things change at colleges and workplaces that make players and employees reevaluate whether it is still a good situation. There is really no need to analyze it further than that. Farewell and forgotten. College athletics at it's very core.

 

[dbronco7sc]

In response to The Red Storm... it is better for them because they will learn that they have to be accountable for their decisions and must accept the consequences and hopefully they will grow as individuals from what they learn.

 

[TheHelgo]

I agree with Storm - screw these guys. We don't want players here that will wind up being cancers next year because they are upset that they aren't "the guy" or something. I much prefer what I am hearing out of McIntosh, Tayor, & Dunson to what I have heard from Taggert & Degand.

 

[RedStorm]

"It's still free will. Have you ever changed jobs? Things change at colleges and workplaces that make players and employees reevaluate whether it is still a good situation. There is really no need to analyze it further than that. Farewell and forgotten. College athletics at it's very core. "

Sure, but people move for different reasons...I have worked places where people left after a Mgt change because they were getting special treatment from the old manager, and that is what I think is happening here...

 

[BryceC]

The Red Storm:

The writing sure seems to be on the wall there doesn't it? I don't know if I totally believe it or not, but I truly hope ISU does well next year, and the next, so those two look on (Degand from his NIT bound Wolverines or Irish, Taggart from the long bench at Memphis) and wish they were back at ISU.

Regardless, they were let go for a reason and ISU is probably better off in the long run. I think both of these players are hurting their careers, but it's their choice to make.

 

[flander1649]

I agree Red Storm! This team is going to play as a TEAM and we are going to see defense like we haven't seen since Floyd was here.

 

[RedStorm]

"In response to The Red Storm... it is better for them because they will learn that they have to be accountable for their decisions and must accept the consequences and hopefully they will grow as individuals from what they learn. "

You are not responding....you are making my point....

 

[hamm50174]

Example of situation in which NCAA grants exemption to transfer rules:
Baylor -- player shoots teammate. coach trys to cover it up.

Example of situation in which NCAA does not grant exemption:
ISU -- new coach arrives. players told they have to work hard and play defense and perhaps even run offensive plays.

Good luck, Farnold...

 

[kberyldial]

Red Storm - like I said: Farewell and forgotten. College athletics at it's very core. I'm not sticking up for them. I've been trying to get people to realize how overrated ST was. I don't know about FD. Must not be kobe Bryant based on who's interested. Someone likely has already entered the program that will make us all quickly forget these two. I'm even willing to suggest that Thompson will end his college career with more fan fare than ST.