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2-10?

Gunnerclone said:
So basically what you're saying is that if we could win another game this year with a QB switch it isn't worth it because Sam is a good guy and a 5th year? That pretty much encapsulates this program and the majority of the fanbase right now.
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Not what I'm saying. You continually say Sam is the issue. So in any scenario if you have multiple issues don't you tackle the biggest one first? That being said Sam isn't the biggest issue. You want 6 plus wins a year. Me too. Changing QB isn't going to get us there. There are bigger fish to fry. Insert your obligitory fire Rhoads comment here because that will be your response. Btw I'm tilting tward that change too but both legs aren't over the dense yet.
 
AWOL2000 said:
Not what I'm saying. You continually say Sam is the issue. So in any scenario if you have multiple issues don't you tackle the biggest one first? That being said Sam isn't the biggest issue. You want 6 plus wins a year. Me too. Changing QB isn't going to get us there. There are bigger fish to fry. Insert your obligitory fire Rhoads comment here because that will be your response. Btw I'm tilting tward that change too but both legs aren't over the dense yet.
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I'm not saying SR is THE issue, I'm saying he is an issue. Just because he isn't the biggest issue doesn't mean that the issue shouldn't be addressed.
 
cyzygy11 said:
I believe 2-10 will not happen...4-8 is realistic, and will be enough to save everyone's job....improvement is enough..
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Where do those other three wins come from? We only play Kansas once and so far are 1-1 against the weakest part of the schedule.
 
Rural said:
In the last fifty or so years the only "step-ups" that come to mind are Florida State and Boise State (at one time a JUCO).
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That's way too limited. Plenty of programs that didn't sniff the AP Top 10 in 1965-67 are big-time now. Oregon, Stanford, Clemson, Mississippi State (I know, SEC, but Kentucky was a much better football program 50 years ago than MSU), Louisville, and of course our own Kansas State. It can be done, although I do agree I think it's a lot harder now, just because of how the landscape of college football has changed.
 
AWOL2000 said:
Not what I'm saying. You continually say Sam is the issue. So in any scenario if you have multiple issues don't you tackle the biggest one first? That being said Sam isn't the biggest issue. You want 6 plus wins a year. Me too. Changing QB isn't going to get us there. There are bigger fish to fry. Insert your obligitory fire Rhoads comment here because that will be your response. Btw I'm tilting tward that change too but both legs aren't over the dense yet.
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Give up. Gunner is a ball watcher and no matter how many people, including former players and coaches, tell him the issue isn't Sam...it is and always will be Sam in his book.
Lanning obviously is the better QB because....well....he is 15 pounds heavier than Sam.
 
Gunnerclone said:
I'd like to see that statement proven on the field. You may very well be right but we have mountains of evidence that SR isn't the answer so what's the harm in trying? Another 2 win season? Noooooooooooooooo
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I remember people saying the same thing last year. Then the Kansas game happened and people are like,"yea, that is why Sam is the starter."
 
The Board of Regents really needs to evaluate why we even have a football program. Why? Serious question. What is the mission statement? To pay the salaries of folks at the athletic office? Does this fall under economic stimulus because it sure as hell isn't academics or university promotion. At least re-evaluate the division we are in. We could go Div. 2 or whatever the Ivy league is and kick their ***. We would be the MIT of the midwest. The last sentences were in jest. Kind of.
 
Well, that wasn't the turn of events I envisioned. It will be a good test to see if the athletes keep on fighting, but admittedly, things just got a bit more difficult.
 
Gunnerclone said:
Yes, way more talented. Just lacking in the talent of actually winning games.
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There you go again harmfully measuring success with wins.

It is hard to know about our talent level when the coaching is also suspect. Not a good combo. I do think there are several coaches we compete against could take a roster like this to a winning record.
 
Well, I might be wrong about what I predicted in here, but there are still 4 games for you guys left, so I'm still hoping you get there.

My biggest disconnect is the lack of development on the offensive line, something I think ISU should be able to do, even given the recruiting disadvantages in Iowa.

This leads me to start thinking about a coaching change, but this season would be an awfully difficult time to try to find a coach.

There isn't much reason this year shouldn't have been a 6 win season. Last year? No. This year? There was enough to get it done, especially since B12 teams could be easily exploited by someone who built an above average defense, and an o line that could run block. Which makes me wonder why B12 o lines can pass protect, which is a more difficult skill set, and not run block so much.

Anyway, college football has always been based on luck to some extent. Take my team. I've seen much more talented Iowa teams win fewer games. I've seen Iowa teams make significantly less mistakes than this year's team. And yet? Schedule, not as easy as some would like to think, but easy enough. And look where we're at? Attitude as an intangible has served them well.

So inversely, ISU has had better players before, and not done as well, and this year has better players sprinkled throughout both sides of the ball, and a few even on special teams, and results so far haven't been very encouraging.

BTW, there was a gentleman in Kinnick yesterday in my section wearing an ISU sweatshirt. Not one person there gave him any crap. Not one. Contrary to what some of y'all think, this is the large percentage of Iowa fans. I do think he was somewhat baffled that the crowd was as critical to IOwa as they were in the second half, and he actually asked about it
 
I was wrong about result, but certainly not about ISU's vastly better talent and potential this season. While not all of this is on the coaches, there is enough of it on the coaches that a complete overhaul needs done.

I watched portions of last week's game, and the play by play guy said ISU's offensive line could very well be the best in the B12. I'm not sure I agree with that, but I guess I'll let it help make my point.

There was absolutely no reason given how poor the B12 is this year, and ISU's vastly improved talent that ISU shouldn't be going to a bowl game this season.

Unless I'm missing something obvious, the issue is systemic. And in order to be corrected now an extremely tough decision needs to be made. The answer, as much as it will anger some of you, might be to do nothing until there is a better environment to be looking for a new coaching staff as it would be difficult to do this right now.

Not being a fan of ISU, it is still impossible to not feel for the athletes and most of the fanbase.
 
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