KidSilverhair
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Why are you bringing the Baltimore Ravens into this?
(I know, I know, it’s a crow. Then again, Ray Lewis?)
Chicago Bears bought Arlington Heights track only to build next to Soldier Field?
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Why are you bringing the Baltimore Ravens into this?
(I know, I know, it’s a crow. Then again, Ray Lewis?)
lol I'm literally taking my family downtown this summer and then to a Cubs game. I love Chicago, the point wasn't to never go, the argument is suburb vs downtown. Give me suburb all day long. But mainly give me the type of location of Arrowhead all day long.
Arlington heights would definitely be safer, possibly easier to get there, possible better parking, etc... I don't live in Chicago, so I will defer to the Bears fans as to what they are wanting. Sports is ever changing and it's all about the $. Teams will do what they do and the fans will have to adapt.
Give me concrete wasteland or give me death!
have you ever been to Harvey?There was a murder in rural Mystic, IA; are you afraid of rural Iowa too?
Southeast Iowa man arrested on first-degree murder charge in Mystic death
A southeast Iowa man has been arrested and charged with murder.ktvo.com
There was an article a few years ago explaining why stadiums were "downsizing" in capacity. Basically the most expensive seats to build are the cheapest priced seats to sell. The extra cost involved to put in just a few more rows which are the highest and furthest from the playing surface... That is when the trend switched to smaller capacity but with high dollar luxury boxes and suites. Obviously there are exemptions, like Jerry's World in Dallas.
The reason that teams want to have more high dollar luxury boxes ands suites is that money is exempts from the league sharing laws. Teams currently have to share 34% of the regular ticket revenue, with the visiting team, but before got to keep all the funds from boxes and suites.
NFL owners approve change to revenue-sharing formula for club seats, suites
NFL owners voted this week to approve a change in the formula for revenue sharing related to club seats and suites.
Good to hear - we just have very different opinions on what we want out of a stadium. This past November for the KU game was my first time at arrowhead. Not a huge fan of walking thru 2miles of parking lot to get to the uber. If they had that baby within walking distance of the power & light that’s the best stadium in the country IMO
Stadium alike Arrowhead and JTS are set up to tail gate around your car, go into the stadium and then after the game, DRIVE home. Soldiers Field and others have little parking, which is great if you are Ubering to the game and then want to hit the bars afterwards. Two totally different experiences. Not saying one is better than the other, just different
Hear me out.
What if a team moved to an area with ample parking and bars/restaurants close by?
What if the team owned the land, stadium, parking revenue, and was the landlord to the bars/restaurants/retail within walking distance?
Bear Down
People get murdered everywhere. Guess you better not leave the house at all if that's what you're worried about.
Prioritizing cars is just so American, so I guess the shoe fits.
Why not stay in a hotel in the safety of the burbs and take the train downtown? Oh right, the poors are on the train and we don't want to have to see them.
American football vs European soccer. Same capacity stadium. Different priorities.
We must cater to the rural folk afraid of cities and give them a car-dependent safe haven!
There is a Metra stop at the site of the stadium today plus it will be much easier to extend the blue line out to the site vs re routing the red to be closer to the current site. The location is also located by 90/290 and is very close to O'hare. It will be easier to get to in AH arguably considering how much of a pain in the ass it is today.
I do not see them extending the blue line at all. To me it would be easier to add a green line spur that follows the Stevenson over to McCormick Place and up to the museum campus. Plus that would actually have reason to operate year round. A blue line extension to AH doesn't have that same benefit.
Just wait for the incompetence of metra to have 1 train running every 45mins on game days. At least soldier is within walking distance to the red line which runs every 5min usually. Zero chance they’ll extend the blue line
If they expand metra service I agree it would be a good middle ground tho
Adding to this - what are the most popular baseball stadiums? Wrigley and Fenway. What do those have in common? Both built into a neighborhood with plenty of fun stuff to do nearby. If you NEED to drive you can park within a 15-20min walk
American football vs European soccer. Same capacity stadium. Different priorities.
We must cater to the rural folk afraid of cities and give them a car-dependent safe haven!
Ever wonder why no one is itching to go see a royals, angels, or rays game? Look up those stadiums (RIP Tropicana tho)
The point being missed in all of this is that there was not a realistic plan forward at the Soldier field site or the Michael Reese site. The Soldier field site is owned by the park district not the bears, and I believe was going to cost around $5 billion for the stadium, to reroute the red line, move lake shore underground, and I think it included a Metra stop. The state said there is no funding available for stadiums for the foreseeable future. So, they would pay $5 billion to essentially not own any of it. The Michael Reese site had a lot of the same issues except they would own the land I believe. In Arlington Heights, they already own the land, they will own everything, and the infrastructure is already in a better spot with a Metra line bordering the property. Regardless of what you feel about billionaires and taxpayers funding their vanity projects, the bears are one of the poorest ownerships in the league, their wealth is the Bears. AH makes more sense for them dollars and cents wise period.
I get the nostalgia behind Soldier Field, and it is a beautiful view, but those two things don't generate revenue in the same way as the new AH site would.
I get the nostalgia behind Soldier Field, and it is a beautiful view, but those two things don't generate revenue in the same way as the new AH site would.
Yeah I grew up by a Metra line, on a normal work day they run quite frequently and have many express lines, I find it very unlikely they would do what you suggest.
The blue line extension has been proposed for a long time, there just hasn't been a big enough need to until this point. If they build in Arlington Heights, that is as good of reason as any. The red line is not close to soldier, I have done that walk many times before, it is brutal in the winter. Rerouting it in the heart of downtown to the stadium would be way more difficult to do vs AH considering the blue line already hugs 90 for the majority of the way.
