No clue as to what that situation is. There was a report last week from an employer that said he did not feel safe in their environment and then a specific question was asked after someone tested positive from within their office.
Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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I mean, if WF wanted they could get a lot of those people in call center environments at home as well. I've spoken to people from more than one company who were doing their call center job from home. WF simply doesnt want to spend the money on making it happen, and they won't until someone like the governor makes it a 'do it or so no business at all' proposition.
Also, is $1000 in bonus money going to cover medical bills if you end up having to be hospitalized?
I'm not sure it'll cover the bills of walking in the hospital's front doors.
At least three mayors and a US Congresswoman have publicly asked her for the shelter in place. Which she told them they could do themselves before realizing she made a whoopsie and they actually can't, if that is any insight into the quality of advice she's getting.
Do they count? Suppose they might be in touch with the medical communities in their respective areas?
Ask yourself what Kim Reynolds knows about this crisis that virtually nobody else in the country does. You may laugh out loud or shudder in fear at that thought but that's where we are right now.
I can still go to the big 4 (grocery store, liquor store, hardware store, dispensary) with no problems. I am just more thoughtful about it.
Thing is, I have no doubt she's taking this seriously and agree with the desire to take a measured approach.
I think most of the frustration with her is the lack of clarity on what the metrics are for a shelter in place, and no one seems to know what the tipping point is where she'll order one.
What hospitals are currently overrun? What effect do you think stricter measures would have right now? How long should a shelter in place order last? How do you enforce it? Who does it include? What do you do when the time is up?
The web site that had this information, has two day old info. If you have a similar chart with today's date, feel free to update that info.
Well since she's waited so long, she currently has about 40+ other states that she can use as a model to answer some of those questions.
And wouldn't you rather not have a hospital be overrun before making a strict decision? Making a more strict decision after a hospital or two is overrun would defeat the purpose of why states are implementing these in the first place.
Heck, I'd argue what is the point of using current numbers? The number of deaths for pretty much the whole rest of this week are basically decided - we just don't know what they are. My biggest issue with Iowa in this is that it is to many reactionary decisions. If you wait for the numbers you are already days behind the game.
Don't ask me, ask Kim Reynolds. She says herself she's on conference calls with governors who have weighed all these questions and decided it was the right call to make. So again, what does she know that they don't?
And your use of the word "currently" shows that you don't get it either.
What are the projections for deaths and hospital stays from Coronavirus in Iowa? That is what matters. Maybe the experts are currently projecting not much will happen yet. In my area, there hasn’t been any community spread yet and the two I know that have it are just about clear. Local Hospital has no patients with corona in it.
Didn't she mention the 4 pieces of criteria to escalate things? I swear I saw it on here somewhere. Doesn't mean a shelter in place but yeah.
Again people keep getting stuck on the terminology. No one has articulated what this vast difference in approach from Iowa and other states are. Other states are taking similar actions but calling them shelter in place. Just because they are using the term wrong doesn’t mean we should.
Any company that isn’t allowing people to work from home that can should be reported to the government. The governors actions clearly show that she isn’t understanding that people are still working in offices who don’t have to. I don’t think she understands that people like the Wells Fargo call center employees can work remote.
Continued calls for a shelter in place are going to lead to us all being locked in our house except for the grocery store.
Any company that isn’t allowing people to work from home that can should be reported to the government. The governors actions clearly show that she isn’t understanding that people are still working in offices who don’t have to. I don’t think she understands that people like the Wells Fargo call center employees can work remote.
Continued calls for a shelter in place are going to lead to us all being locked in our house except for the grocery store.
No, they arent. People have articulated the differences multiple times in this thread and then idiots wander in and go "its the same thing except for terminology"
I honestly do not believe you can force a company to go remote without the some sort of mandate. It doesn’t matter what Gov Reynolds recommends, those don’t hold any weight. An actual mandate does and she can call it literally whatever she wants!
This would be comparable if everyone was testing at the same rate (still waiting on those federal government promises that everyone can get tested...) but they aren't. I know of two people in my work/friends circle that have been told "assume you have it but you don't meet the criteria for an official test" here in Iowa. I highly doubt its a coincidence that I know 2 of the 400 people in the entire state of Iowa that have it. I think A LOT more people have it (which does bode well for the death rate stats) we just aren't testing enough people. And I tend to trust Dr. Fauci when he said the key to getting back to a semi-normal life is frequent and easy testing.
I’m convinced that we could end up like New York and she wouldn’t order a shelter in place. I understand she’s likely taking this seriously and working hard, but I don’t believe she’s doing enough.
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