Those three programs passed us? I'm not sure we were ahead of them.
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Those three programs passed us? I'm not sure we were ahead of them.
What has many frustrated is almost every week, win or lose, the team underachieves.
Thinking back over the season the game I felt the best after? Oklahoma, a loss!
The rest were very, very frustrating to watch, even when we won.
It was a great season compared to the horrible losing seasons we’ve had but fun, not at all.
Thinking back over the season the game I felt the best after? Oklahoma, a loss!
The rest were very, very frustrating to watch, even when we won.
It was a great season compared to the horrible losing seasons we’ve had but fun, not at all.
Throw the damn ball down field. We aren't that good to be so conservative.
Yes tough guy is here! Civil discourse is not asking for dumb tag on someone's post who says the same thing you are thinking just in a different way. Also I love the, "I don't live on a message board..." You look stupid because here you are on a message board. You either are on them or not.
I clicked agree, but I have a caveat. Can we have expectations without running down our players and coaches, calling them names and wishing they weren't Cyclones? That's all I ask. I want a national Championship as much or more than many of you, but you can't call your team, its players and coaches names and expect that YOU deserve anything from them.
The second you start throwing around stuff like "the O-line sucks", and "I hope Campbell finds another job," you lose all rights to "deserving" more. I don't give a rip how you feel about it.
If you can't understand this, you are completely shortsighted.
Considering the ass kicking NDSU put on ISU in 2014 I'd say Klieman knows about winning culture.
The line play tonight showed he knows how to expand it when needed.
They scored 409 points this year, last year its was like 350 including the bowl game I believe. So the offense was greatly improved.
ISU's biggest problem this year was dropped INT's and giving up first down's on 3rd and long.
I mean if it was 3rd down and 10 or more the conversion rate had to be 80% for the opponent
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Good lord have some expectations in life. Campbell expects this team and program to be better, so we should too. I guarantee he is thinking there is no reason we shouldn't have won 9 or maybe 10 games this year, but he would never say it. This team has talent and is right there, but they really crapped the bed this season in some critical points.
I guess I don’t understand your comment. People that question coaching decisions are bad fans? Hmm...I guess this world must just be full of people that are not nearly as full of sunshine and rainbows like you must be. There are moments in every game where these coaches make mistakes. The frustrating thing is when they continue to make them instead of adjusting.
but I guess that makes me a bad fan to state the obvious.
Certain degrees yes, but saying the o-line sucks when that's exactly what they did tonight is just calling it what it is. Those guys when they watch film are going to think the exact same thing. Sometimes you have to take your licks. I've been told by co-workers or bosses that my effort was really poor in "x" situation or that my job I did on a project really was not well done and I need to be much better or risk not getting those types of projects.
I wasn't writing the first part of the post about you or your comments. I was suggesting that people denigrate their team in any way don't deserve their fandom. Then you went off on my comment. If you don't agree with me, that's OK.
I have expectations in life. I just don't crap all over those that I choose to affiliate myself with when things don't work out the way I want them too.
Have expectations, state them in a way that is respectful and you'll get no argument from me.
Run the Cyclones, Cyclone Players or Cyclone coaches down in a way that would get your ass handed to you by ANY OF THEM, and I'll tell you you are acting like an entitled little baby that needs to find something they can actually control to live their life through.
I apologize, you do not live on the message board based on the number of posts you have, nor do I. I just think having a quick label of dumb is not good for conversation. I'm sorry.
K state and Iowa are hard for isu to beat because they run the ball and normally have big bruising lines and running backs. Our defense just isn’t designed to take that pounding, it’s better against ok state or Texas tech or even ou where can get our linebackers in space to make plays on smaller backs qbs, and receivers. It’s designed to stop an offense like ours that is going to pass 50x come hell or high water. Most teams we face are never going to commit to the run like that, it’s pick your poison really. They do ok with those heavy offenses, but it’s not designed with that in mind.
I do think k state saw a specific spot they could attack where we are undermanned, one that has been there for quite some time frankly, and just never moved away from that.
I do think k state saw a specific spot they could attack where we are undermanned, one that has been there for quite some time frankly, and just never moved away from that.
This year the team underachieved, last 2 years it was the opposite. If you look forward to Phil Steele's annual preseason edition he will probably call for us to have a 8-9 win year based on breaks.
