Today's CBS top 25 Rankings
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I don't understand what this has to do with Iowa State basketball. Mods, please help OP put this in the correct forum.
But he cheers for Iowa State when not playing Iowa, UNI, Kansas, Oklahoma, Okie State, K State, Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, WV, Mizzou, or Illinois!!!!
I can play too!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/view/overview/page/1
FYI, you have to flip to Page 2 to see Iowa.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/view/overview/page/1
FYI, you have to flip to Page 2 to see Iowa.
Jay "The Bilistrator" Bilas has 8 Big 12 teams in his top 68. Here they are:
11. Kansas Jayhawks
If Kansas wins the Big 12 yet again, this will be Bill Self's most improbable title. Kansas has every reason to give up the title to the field this season because the Jayhawks are smaller inside without Udoka Azubuike and Silvio De Sousa and because the Jayhawks' guards are so darn young. Yet Dedric Lawson has been so consistently productive and the "good Lagerald Vick" has shown up so often that Kansas has been able to overcome its deficiencies. Buckle up, KU fans. There will be a lot of close games this season, but it will be fun.
13. Texas Tech Red Raiders
The Red Raiders are listed this high due to amazingly tight and tough defense. Texas Tech defends as well as any team in the country, but the Red Raiders simply cannot score efficiently. Jarrett Culver is a great player who will be a first-round pick, but what other Red Raiders player can score at the end of a clock? This is not a top-50 offensive team, and most of the analytics suggest that this is not a top-100 offensive team. Defense will get Texas Tech to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament. You have to score to get beyond that.
19. Iowa State Cyclones
The Cyclones are now healthy and have a full complement of players. Marial Shayok is now a conference-leading scorer after being a role player at Virginia (which should give you an indication of how good Virginia is and has been), and five players on the roster can hit multiple 3s in any given game. Iowa State does not have a ton of size, but Talen Horton-Tucker provides a wonderful matchup problem for any opponent. Give this team another month, and the Cyclones will be the best team in the Big 12 not named Kansas.
20. K-State Wildcats
Without Dean Wade, Kansas State was average. With Dean Wade, Kansas State is very good. Wade is an NBA player, and he provides a go-to scorer and passer alongside Barry Brown Jr. The Wildcats are a rough, tough defensive team, but with Wade, Kansas State can be a respectable offensive team as well. Without Wade? Not so much.
23. TCU Horned Frogs
On the list of "Coaches Who Have Done A Great Job," the name Jamie Dixon would be near the top. Think of the difference Dixon, Rick Barnes, Kermit Davis, Ben Howland, Kevin Keatts and Chris Mack, to name a few, have made at their current programs. TCU lost a good guard in Jaylen Fisher but has a really good guard in Alex Robinson, one of the best passers in the country. Keep an eye on Kevin Samuel. He is an elite prospect as a big man in the Big 12. When he starts knocking down free throws, look out. He already shoots better than 70 percent from the floor.
37. Texas Longhorns
The Longhorns have been up and down, but they are always right there to win. The only thing standing in the way of a better record has been consistent perimeter shooting. Keep your eye on Jaxson Hayes. That dude can play, and he is getting better by the day.
40. Oklahoma Sooners
How do you lose Trae Young and get better? Oklahoma is far better defensively, and Christian James has emerged as a reliable leading scorer. The Sooners still need to be more efficient with the ball and cut down on turnovers.
49. Baylor Bears
The Bears are going to miss Tristan Clark (knee) for the remainder of this season, but there's still a lot to like here. Yale transfer Makai Mason can really score, and Scott Drew's group gets after it on the offensive glass (fifth nationally in offensive rebound percentage).
11. Kansas Jayhawks
If Kansas wins the Big 12 yet again, this will be Bill Self's most improbable title. Kansas has every reason to give up the title to the field this season because the Jayhawks are smaller inside without Udoka Azubuike and Silvio De Sousa and because the Jayhawks' guards are so darn young. Yet Dedric Lawson has been so consistently productive and the "good Lagerald Vick" has shown up so often that Kansas has been able to overcome its deficiencies. Buckle up, KU fans. There will be a lot of close games this season, but it will be fun.
13. Texas Tech Red Raiders
The Red Raiders are listed this high due to amazingly tight and tough defense. Texas Tech defends as well as any team in the country, but the Red Raiders simply cannot score efficiently. Jarrett Culver is a great player who will be a first-round pick, but what other Red Raiders player can score at the end of a clock? This is not a top-50 offensive team, and most of the analytics suggest that this is not a top-100 offensive team. Defense will get Texas Tech to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament. You have to score to get beyond that.
19. Iowa State Cyclones
The Cyclones are now healthy and have a full complement of players. Marial Shayok is now a conference-leading scorer after being a role player at Virginia (which should give you an indication of how good Virginia is and has been), and five players on the roster can hit multiple 3s in any given game. Iowa State does not have a ton of size, but Talen Horton-Tucker provides a wonderful matchup problem for any opponent. Give this team another month, and the Cyclones will be the best team in the Big 12 not named Kansas.
20. K-State Wildcats
Without Dean Wade, Kansas State was average. With Dean Wade, Kansas State is very good. Wade is an NBA player, and he provides a go-to scorer and passer alongside Barry Brown Jr. The Wildcats are a rough, tough defensive team, but with Wade, Kansas State can be a respectable offensive team as well. Without Wade? Not so much.
23. TCU Horned Frogs
On the list of "Coaches Who Have Done A Great Job," the name Jamie Dixon would be near the top. Think of the difference Dixon, Rick Barnes, Kermit Davis, Ben Howland, Kevin Keatts and Chris Mack, to name a few, have made at their current programs. TCU lost a good guard in Jaylen Fisher but has a really good guard in Alex Robinson, one of the best passers in the country. Keep an eye on Kevin Samuel. He is an elite prospect as a big man in the Big 12. When he starts knocking down free throws, look out. He already shoots better than 70 percent from the floor.
37. Texas Longhorns
The Longhorns have been up and down, but they are always right there to win. The only thing standing in the way of a better record has been consistent perimeter shooting. Keep your eye on Jaxson Hayes. That dude can play, and he is getting better by the day.
40. Oklahoma Sooners
How do you lose Trae Young and get better? Oklahoma is far better defensively, and Christian James has emerged as a reliable leading scorer. The Sooners still need to be more efficient with the ball and cut down on turnovers.
49. Baylor Bears
The Bears are going to miss Tristan Clark (knee) for the remainder of this season, but there's still a lot to like here. Yale transfer Makai Mason can really score, and Scott Drew's group gets after it on the offensive glass (fifth nationally in offensive rebound percentage).
Wonder why the OP didn't post a link from Ken Pom, ESPN, or NET rankings?
Because it came across my twitter feed and I found it interesting. And it has a lot to do with isu basketball for those asking. It shows their opponents and how they are ranked. Honestly thought ISU was ranked in it. I appoligize
Well you do lose to teams outside the top 10 in ken pom though. unlike TOE
Also if you want to go down the road of rankings. AP and coaches poll 2 of the top rankings that are looked at have TOE ranked higher. I tried to just start a nice conversation about some rankings and you guys turn it into a iowa fan trolling. Come one
I like what he says in general, but I think he's showing his East coast bias there with his comments on Shayok. Marial wasn't the 6th best player on Virginia's team. His strengths didn't fit that offense.
You didn't say anything in your OP besides linking us to a ranking that doesn't include Iowa State. Poor Iowa troll doesn't understand why his threads don't go over too well.
How did you try to start a "nice" conversation? You literally just posted a link
