Asking again: Has the rot started to set in?

[Cyrealist]

People are greatly underestimating the change in SOS that has occurred given conference realignment. Our schedules going forward are going to be markedly easier than the DMac era.

In the McCarney years,
- We played one less conference game
- There was a stretch where Iowa was in a rebuilding phase
- The conference was divided into divisions and the Northern Division was really bad. There were a couple of years where it would have been much easier to win the North Division that it would be to win the conference this year

A more manageable schedule is an opportunity not a guarantee of success. Iowa State is part of an easier schedule for other teams in the conference.

 

[CycloneSpinning]

Campbell can’t carry Snyder’s water. Synder did that with tougher conference schedules at a place which was considered worse than ISU when he arrived.

Since CMC hire, the conference has gotten markedly easier and facilities have greatly improved. At an absolute minimum he needs to win one more game just to be on par with last yr given the incredibly easy schedule (and even then I would consider it a step back as there should have been growth for a team returning everyone).

Now if he can somehow close out with at least two more victories (looking doubtful the way they have played the last 3-4 weeks) then at least we would have taken a step forward from last season. Anything less (given SOS) and it is treading water or worse.

People are greatly underestimating the change in SOS that has occurred given conference realignment. Our schedules going forward are going to be markedly easier than the DMac era.

9 wins would make Campbell the only ISU coach to ever get to that mark twice. He’s knocking on the door with half of his defense injured. I know we were hoping for a lot more two weeks ago, but that’s pretty remarkable really.

 

[IASTATE07]

One of the things I remember about McCarney's last game were the video highlights throughout his tenure. I think they were called McCarney Moments. It was basically a Troy Davis highlight reel.

 

[crs8975]

Well we were 7-3 in 2005 and that was considered a massive failure.

We started out 3-3 though. I also don't remember that season as a whole being a "Massive failure" whatsoever. Then again... I was a sophomore and just enjoying the ride.

 

[83cy]

Speaking of that Missouri game, I swear ISU must lead the nation in missed chip shot FG's for losses the last 20 years. At least 2 games in 2022.

 

[Dgilbertson]

We started out 3-3 though. I also don't remember that season as a whole being a "Massive failure" whatsoever. Then again... I was a sophomore and just enjoying the ride.

It was more of a very disappointing missed opportunity, that does not come around often.

Like if the opportunity to make or win the CCG this year, comes down to our offense needing a drive and we play conservatively, settle for a makable fg and miss it.

Tough to swallow.

 

[VeloClone]

This year will end with us playing 1 ranked team at the end of the year and that is not even guaranteed (Kansas State). If we can’t get it done with this patheticly easy schedule it just won’t happen - especially with a team returning everyone from last yrs 7-6 team that played a tougher schedule.

We finally have a schedule that isn't ranked single digit or teens toughest in the country and suddenly it is pathetically easy... There are about 70 teams between the P4, ND and the two left overs of the PAC. ISU's SOS is pretty much dead set in the middle at Sagarin 38.

Our world view is skewed on this since we have had ridiculously tough schedules year in and year out for too long.

 

[VeloClone]

Tied game late. Win the game and we win the Big 12 north. Huge defensive play and a 53 yard fumble return to get us inside the Missouri 20 with under 2 mins to play.

Too conservative?
3 straight runs?

If Culberson makes the FG the entire trajectory of ISU changes.

Missouri Downs Iowa State, 17-14 - Iowa State University Athletics

AMES, Iowa (AP) - Adam Crossett kicked Iowa State out of the Big 12 championship game.

cyclones.com

Pretty miserable weather (sleet/freezing rain) to bank on making even a short field goal.

 

[danvillecyclone]

Pretty miserable weather (sleet/freezing rain) to bank on making even a short field goal.

Yes. I was there.

It was just 3 straight hand offs

Of course Culberson makes it 90% of the time minimum.

Hard one to swillow.

At the time ,
during the game I was against playing for the FG. Just because how raw the weather was.

But even though he missed it, Coach Mac played the percentage.

 

[danvillecyclone]

As awful as the losses to Mizzou in 2004 and @ Kansas in 2005 were, it wouldn't have changed the trajectory much IMO. Sheesh OU stomped Colorado in the 2004 Big XII CCG 42-3, and Texas skull drugged the Buffaloes in the 2005 Big XII CCG 70-3. 'Twould have just meant back to back Big XII CCG game blowout losses for the Cyclones IMO. I still wish ISU would have beaten Mizzou and won @ Kansas, but it would not have changed the trajectory of ISU football IMO.

Yes. You’re probably correct. Hyperbole on my part. But it certainly would have been a huge boost

But you never know until you play the game.

It may have also changed Coach Mac’s perception

 

[Stormin]

Yes. I was there.

It was just 3 straight hand offs

Of course Culberson makes it 90% of the time minimum.

Hard one to swillow.

At the time ,
during the game I was against playing for the FG. Just because how raw the weather was.

But even though he missed it, Coach Mac played the percentage.

No he did not. If Mac played percentages he would have centered the ball in the middle of the field on the third run. Eliminate the angle which actually makes your field goal more difficult. Ferentz usually always centers the ball for his FG kicker. Mac messed up.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Yes. You’re probably correct. Hyperbole on my part. But it certainly would have been a huge boost

But you never know until you play the game.

It may have also changed Coach Mac’s perception

Coach Mac would have 2 more wins though if he would have beaten Mizzou and won @ Kansas. I'd love for ISU to have won thsoe games, regardless of what would have happened in the subsequent Big XII Championship Games. Might have improved the Bowl those two years too. So, there could have been a minor bump.

 

[VeloClone]

Yes. I was there.

It was just 3 straight hand offs

Of course Culberson makes it 90% of the time minimum.

Hard one to swillow.

At the time ,
during the game I was against playing for the FG. Just because how raw the weather was.

But even though he missed it, Coach Mac played the percentage.

So was I. Mrs. Velo still hasn't forgiven me for dragging her to that miserable game.

 

[CyDude16]

Bump

We’re 7-2. While the last two games have been disappointing, there isn’t rot. Just a ridiculous time to ‘bump’.

 

[CyDude16]

This is why I love this thread and why I made this thread. Sure I’ll take a few lumps once in awhile, but overall I’m going to come out ahead on it.

No you won’t, similar to another thread you started.

 

[CyDude16]

CMC and the Cyclones are exceeding expectations this year.

McCarney, Rhoads, and Chizik never faced a schedule this soft. And never had this level of support and facilities.

Those things can both be true.

It can also be true that CMC no longer is capable of adjusting to the realities of the roster or becoming capable as a gameday coach and managing timeouts and tempo.

We're allowed to notice flaws and offer solutions. Some of us suffered through 0-10-1 during undergrad and have earned our grumpiness.

Lmao that’s a flat out lie saying previous coaches never had schedules as easy as this.

 

[CyDude16]

Campbell can stay as long as he wants, because he won’t wear a hard hat walking off the field like Rhoads after losing. As much as I liked Rhoads, that West Virginia loss in his last game was so damn embarrassing.

 

[Big_Sill]

We need to be able to criticize Campbell and Co without being labeled a rotter.

I don't want Campbell gone and nobody should, but the last 2 or 3 games have been crap from this coaching staff. Bad game plan, seemingly dis-interested team, limited to no adjustments... all of this with a LOT on the line late in the season. Injuries or not, at least try something different.

 

[madguy30]

We started out 3-3 though. I also don't remember that season as a whole being a "Massive failure" whatsoever. Then again... I was a sophomore and just enjoying the ride.

They had some talent and a super easy schedule but played tight about the whole season.

Gave Baylor their first ever Big 12 road win and the other losses included a lot of plays left on the field.

 

[Stormin]

We need to be able to criticize Campbell and Co without being labeled a rotter.

I don't want Campbell gone and nobody should, but the last 2 or 3 games have been crap from this coaching staff. Bad game plan, seemingly dis-interested team, limitedto no adjustments... all of this with a LOT on the line late in the season. Injuries or not, at least try something different.

When you start a thread with the title “Has the Rot started to set in” , you are not giving constructive criticism.