Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Nolaeer]

WVU plays 2 regional rivals every year. now rotates from penn state, pitt, vt, and terps.

NB is crying about the schedule and wants to do Pitt every year and 2 lower-level teams. fans are not having that.

coaches are paid big money to win tough games, not tune-ups. If we go to 10 conference games, id be okay with not playing psu. just 12 p5 teams with vt and pitt being the nonconf games every year.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

Good point, my bad.

Hope not. Not that I wouldn't lose any sleep not playing Iowa every year but better for the state of Iowa and better for the fans. Keeping a buy FCS game would be pathetic.

I don't think it would end, but it would hopefully force a 2 on 2 off situation, which is what I wish we did anyway.

 

[LonelyCyKC]

Are you me? This sounds like me.

I don't know. I just looked in the mirror and saw me.

 

[LonelyCyKC]

TV partners don’t want David vs Goliath, they want a P2 like model in the playoffs.

What tv wants in David and Goliath or even Goliath and Goliath is games between regions, not games between teams in the same tv region. Two regions equals two groups of fans. One region equals one group of fans. For instance what is the best national draw, Texas vs Ohio State, or Texas vs Texas A&M? or Iowa State vs Florida State, or Florida State vs Miami?

 

[LonelyCyKC]

Which will be Exhibit A when the SEC & B1G want to change it to:
the Top 2 ranked conference champions, OR
the Top 6 ranked conference champions also ranked in the Top 12, OR
just the flat out Top12 with no autobids.

Ah, but who gets to decide who the top 12 are? Voters from the SEC, or voters from the Mountain West, or someone from Alaska that only watches soccer (football). Or some old fat guy on the beach in (now burned out) Hawaii. Or the SEC and B1G media.

 

[Gorm]

The difference between the PAC-4 and the (hypothetical at this point) AAC-3 is that the PAC's GOR and media deal are expiring. The PAC didn't vote to dissolve. Everyone that is leaving is doing so at the end of the current GOR once their obligations under that agreement have been fulfilled. No negotiations, no buyouts, no exit fees, just the end of the contract.

The same isn't true for the AAC, their media deal (and GOR) runs through 2031-32.

Not really sure why you think that. The "just get enough schools with a better landing spot to dissolve the whole conference" strategy has been discussed in depth at least a dozen times on this thread regarding the ACC. It sure doesn't seem like it's a viable strategy based on the available information. I don't see why the AAC would be any different.

"They had a landing spot while voting!" - How does one prove this in a lawsuit without the departing school publishing an official announcement before said vote? How does one prove "back room talks" have occurred between the departing school and a conference? Not saying it isn't possible, but would be extremely challenging.

This is why you don't do these types of moves in the open. With all the "on the record" statements FSU is putting out, its going to be an easier legal case in that situation.

Also, just because a strategy isn't "viable" doesn't mean someone won't try it. Almost all "strategies" to break a GOR aren't viable, yet a school is probably going to try something at some point. I look forward to following the court battle on that when it occurs.

 

[LonelyCyKC]

Conferences will only go to 10 games in exchange for more money. The SEC recently tried to get ESPN to pay for an additional conference game and they passed as they were in cost cutting mode but presumably sometime in the next few years the funding will be there.

You are wrong. I expect the networks to reduce the money offered in the future. There is already some push back on contract dollars that may be covered by the collapsing conferences and cancellation of their tv contracts. I think that the networks will require the extra game to cover their costs.

 

[Triggermv]

Boy, Michael Crow is still working hard to sell the "great" streaming deal Apple offered the Pac. He just can't let that thing go, even all while recognizing all the ASU fans were against him. He also talks about all these bells and whistles of Apple streaming that nearly all other streaming platforms also offer, including the streaming portion of the Big 12 contract. I am so glad this guy isn't our President at ISU.

 

[LonelyCyKC]

FSU cant win in the ACC, so not sure why they think they will win in tougher football conferences. I think that 120M exit fee is iron clad; I would be surprised if they could wiggle their way out of it.

Its all about the SEC Denaros (Moola)(Pesos)(Yuan).

 

[exCyDing]

"They had a landing spot while voting!" - How does one prove this in a lawsuit without the departing school publishing an official announcement before said vote? How does one prove "back room talks" have occurred between the departing school and a conference? Not saying it isn't possible, but would be extremely challenging.

File a lawsuit and get discovery. Many of these schools are state institutions so FOIA requests can be made. It would be incredibly difficult for 11 institutions to completely cover their tracks. Additionally, in civil court, there is no pleading the 5th. If it got to a trial, defendants refusing to answer questions such as "did you discuss moving to x conference prior to x date?" could be interpreted by a jury as an affirmation that those talks did take place. Unless a whole lot of people are cool with tempting perjury charges, there's going to be a lot of refusing to answer that question.

These are big institutions. Between the conferences, schools and networks, there are a lot of people in the room to make everything come together.

This is why you don't do these types of moves in the open. With all the "on the record" statements FSU is putting out, its going to be an easier legal case in that situation.

IMO, the statements FSU is putting out are proof positive they don't see a viable path to do a backroom deal to get out of the GOR. Any talk of blowing up the GOR in courts is a bluff. Their goal is likely to get a larger slice of ACC revenues, and the ACC might see giving them a bigger slice as a cheaper alternative to fighting an lengthy and expensive legal battle.

Also, just because a strategy isn't "viable" doesn't mean someone won't try it. Almost all "strategies" to break a GOR aren't viable, yet a school is probably going to try something at some point. I look forward to following the court battle on that when it occurs.

Sure, someone might give it a go, but it's going to be a long, expensive and likely unsuccessful attempt. I'd think the decision makers would want some assurance that they have a strategy that might work before they'd sign off on it, though.

 

[heitclone]

Ummm sAn Diego st and co aren't paying 34 mil to go to whatever this is.

According to this, those recent AAC adds will get a reduced share to help with buyouts

 

[LLCoolCY]

mHver making some more soft predictions. Let's see how these work out in a few weeks.



If nothing else good for a laugh.

 

[Gonzo]

mHver making some more soft predictions. Let's see how these work out in a few weeks.



If nothing else good for a laugh.

Changing the name of the conference would be a very dumb move.

 

[MugNight]

Changing the name of the conference would be a very dumb move.

Would be hilarious to see branding like B16 in the style of Big 10’s B1G

 

[06_CY]

B12 forever!

 

[Gonzo]

Would be hilarious to see branding like B16 in the style of Big 10’s B1G

Pretty sure there'd be a legal hiccup or two.

 

[MugNight]

Holy crap. The market is what the vendor tells you, not what you estimate in house. GK’s leadership is a case study in incompetence.

 

[Dr.bannedman]

The Big 16 trademark is owned by a canada bagel company

 

[Gonzo]

Holy crap. The market is what the vendor tells you, not what you estimate in house. GK’s leadership is a case study in incompetence.

I don't think the guy made one single right move at any point in the process.

 

[KnappShack]

Holy crap. The market is what the vendor tells you, not what you estimate in house. GK’s leadership is a case study in incompetence.

I was a PAC 10 fan for years. But reading **** like this lets me know it was time for that dinosaur to die.

Dumbfuckery from top to bottom.