Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Not sure how UCLA will ever play a road game at the University of Iowa (in any sport) as California Assembly Bill 1887 prohibits the use of public funds for UCLA athletic teams to travel to any state deemed discriminatory against the LGBT community, and Iowa is one of 22 states on the banned list.

If UCLA would manage to use private funding to cover all their travel costs to Iowa City, the UCLA athletes and staff are required to be educated about this law and to be given the option to not make the trip with no risk of adverse consequences.

The are getting massive TV deal. Would those be considered public funds? I am guessing not
 

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You're ignoring the part about being able to buy players with that extra 70 million dollars a year.

How do you move media money into NIL?

I was under impression this was just going to allow Nebraska to hire and fire coaches even faster and constantly rebuild facilities...stuff the Big Ten could already do more easily than any other conference.

Even if it becomes easy to just buy players with media money. Somebody has to lose and some of these stadiums like UCLA and Rutgers are already empty. Fandoms are going to get excited and grow from losing?

The whole thing is pretty irrational.

Cash grab so some people make more money in short term. It's not going to expand the sport. Examples of college football growing are Boise State, Utah, UCF, East Carolina, TCU...or ISU and Kansas State now being healthy programs that sell out large stadiums compared to 1988 where they were considering dropping out of major football and had very few actual fans.

College football isn't going to grow by only directly being tied to alumni of just 40 schools (a handful of which aren't even putting butts in seats and eyes on screens now) instead of 120.

It'll be really good for a few people making money right now, and then in 20 years it'll go away for the reasons nobody cares about the Iowa Cubs and Iowa Energy. Unless they find a way to include everybody and keep the only thing that makes college football cool compared to the NFL.
 

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The Wilner mailbag includes a quote from UCLA about this. Any games in Iowa, Indiana, Ohio will be privately funded and any student athlete can opt out of traveling to those states with no consequences.
I'd expect their would be campus wide protests at UCLA if that is what happens.
 

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Not sure how UCLA will ever play a road game at the University of Iowa (in any sport) as California Assembly Bill 1887 prohibits the use of public funds for UCLA athletic teams to travel to any state deemed discriminatory against the LGBT community, and Iowa is one of 22 states on the banned list.

If UCLA would manage to use private funding to cover all their travel costs to Iowa City, the UCLA athletes and staff are required to be educated about this law and to be given the option to not make the trip with no risk of adverse consequences.
Come to think of it, this law would would also apply to road games at Purdue, Indiana, and Ohio State, in addition to Iowa. Since California law requires giving the UCLA athletes the option of not participating in these road games with no adverse consequences, I could easily see UCLA's athletes banding together to boycott these road games out of deference to the LGBT community.

That would put the Big 10 conference in an impossible situation. The Big 10 could require UCLA to forfeit these games, but that would create a national PR disaster for the conference. Or the Big 10 could simply not have UCLA ever play road games at these four members of the conference, which would be a logistical and political nightmare.

Have fun with all that, Big 10.
 

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Not sure how UCLA will ever play a road game at the University of Iowa (in any sport) as California Assembly Bill 1887 prohibits the use of public funds for UCLA athletic teams to travel to any state deemed discriminatory against the LGBT community, and Iowa is one of 22 states on the banned list.

If UCLA would manage to use private funding to cover all their travel costs to Iowa City, the UCLA athletes and staff are required to be educated about this law and to be given the option to not make the trip with no risk of adverse consequences.
Wow, that'd be a third of these big10. Indiana, Purdue, Iowa, Ohio State, Nebraska.

Edit:. Haha, @Pope beat me on the idea!
 
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Yes that's possible but I'd be absolutely floored if any major conference (including Big 12) gave their t-1 rights to a streamer. I'd also be stunned if a streamer paid the premium they would have to pay to get a deal for those rights to then sell off the most valuable part of that deal.

I think potentially several conferences will have tier 2 or 3 rights with a streamer (including Big 10)
My thoughts were that maybe right now they can't support it fully so they resell those prime games and pump their services the entire time, like even though it's on CBS they still have to have the Amazon logo showing the entire time. Who knows, they could make more reselling part of it, making NBC and CBS bid for a select package. Not as much total or long term so less risk and if the Big12 had a great year you can raise the price in short term for those games. It's a gamble but Amazon has money and helps them get into it with less risk? I don't know, just some thoughts I had. But the advertising they get from it could be big.
 

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Come to think of it, this law would would also apply to road games at Purdue, Indiana, and Ohio State, in addition to Iowa. Since California law requires giving the UCLA athletes the option of not participating in these road games with no adverse consequences, I could easily see UCLA's athletes banding together to boycott these road games out of deference to the LGBT community.

That would put the Big 10 conference in an impossible situation. The Big 10 could require UCLA to forfeit these games, but that would create a national PR disaster for the conference. Or the Big 10 could simply not have UCLA ever play road games at these four members of the conference, which would be a logistical and political nightmare.

Have fun with all that, Big 10.
How have they been doing it for Utah?
 
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While a very flawed method, I used average final FPI (horizontal) and BPI (vertical) over the last 10 years to get an idea of how competitive PAC, Big12, ACC, and a handful of G5 teams have been. That PAC move has not been kind to Colorado. Going back to my previous posts today, my god have I been misinformed about UVA bball.
 

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Come to think of it, this law would would also apply to road games at Purdue, Indiana, and Ohio State, in addition to Iowa. Since California law requires giving the UCLA athletes the option of not participating in these road games with no adverse consequences, I could easily see UCLA's athletes banding together to boycott these road games out of deference to the LGBT community.

That would put the Big 10 conference in an impossible situation. The Big 10 could require UCLA to forfeit these games, but that would create a national PR disaster for the conference. Or the Big 10 could simply not have UCLA ever play road games at these four members of the conference, which would be a logistical and political nightmare.

Have fun with all that, Big 10.

Maybe I'm just a naive Iowan who admittedly has never been to california, but I can't imagine high-major college football players, much less most of California's populations, actually gives a **** about not stepping foot in Iowa or Ohio because it makes them complicit in some sort of sinister political agenda
 

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Come to think of it, this law would would also apply to road games at Purdue, Indiana, and Ohio State, in addition to Iowa. Since California law requires giving the UCLA athletes the option of not participating in these road games with no adverse consequences, I could easily see UCLA's athletes banding together to boycott these road games out of deference to the LGBT community.

That would put the Big 10 conference in an impossible situation. The Big 10 could require UCLA to forfeit these games, but that would create a national PR disaster for the conference. Or the Big 10 could simply not have UCLA ever play road games at these four members of the conference, which would be a logistical and political nightmare.

Have fun with all that, Big 10.

I have no idea how athletes lean politically. But I am going to go on a hunch that most of these athletes don't feel really passionate about this issue compared to other active non-student athletes when it comes to competing. I could see a couple Olympic athletes standing up for something like this, but that's probably still a small number. But I don't think it will be an issue for Football or Basketball.
 

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Maybe I'm just a naive Iowan who admittedly has never been to california, but I can't imagine high-major college football players, much less most of California's populations, actually gives a **** about not stepping foot in Iowa or Ohio because it makes them implicit in some sort of sinister political agenda
I agree with you. I think you might be a naive Iowan.
 

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While a very flawed method, I used average final FPI (horizontal) and BPI (vertical) over the last 10 years to get an idea of how competitive PAC, Big12, ACC, and a handful of G5 teams have been. That PAC move has not been kind to Colorado. Going back to my previous posts today, my god have I been misinformed about UVA bball.

Backs up my initial thoughts in all of this that OK St and Baylor are the best football programs that have been deemed unworthy of joining the Rutgers Illinois Mississippi State Super Conference.
 
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UCLA is going to start a season 0-6 with losses at Ohio State and Indiana and decide as a team not to travel to Iowa City to raise awareness for the LGBTQ community
 

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It might also destroy the NFL. College football is NFL's golden goose, they're not going to **** with that so long as college football remains a feeder league for the NFL rather than a competitor.

Nothing is destroying the NFL. The average NFL reg. season game was 17 million. The two BEST CFB games (outside of playoffs) were 10 and 15 million. Keep in mind there are prime time slot network college games that barely break 1M.

I also don't think NFL is too scared about losing it's feeder league. What else are college players going to do? It's not like CFB would disappear, it will just take a beating in ratings, and ESPN and Fox lose money.

The National games on network TV in the NFL typically get 15-28M, with the top being 38M! Now, the NFL network games and the Fox/CBS games that are doubled up and regional tend to get 7-9M. So basically those games' viewership gets cut in about half, which makes sense.

If you open up slots for 3 games on Sunday, that would mean almost every game CBS has is national, with what, two being regional and sharing a slot? So, due to CFB competition you don't just double viewership of what would've been an otherwise doubled up regional game. But you wouldn't have to for it to make sense financially.

Now, who knows if the NFL would allow it, but if CBS stays out of CFB, that would be the first time since the very early days of Fox's NFL coverage where there was an NFL-carrying network that did not have college football.

With that said, I don't think it happens.