Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

cyIclSoneU

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15 of the 18 schools in the Big 12 could play the entire ACC + Notre Dame each season.

Our schedule most years could be 9 conference games, Iowa, an ACC school, and a cupcake.

Thinking more about this. It seems like a good way to get creative about making more TV money.

An 18-team Big 12 and the ACC plus Notre Dame would all keep the same weekend in October or November open. Years in advance, they would announce pools like this.

Big 12 home teams: Washington, BYU, Arizona, Iowa State, K-State, Texas Tech, Houston, West Virginia

Big 12 away teams: Oregon, Utah, ASU, Kansas, Oklahoma State, TCU, Cincinnati

Big 12 sitting this one out: Colorado, Baylor, UCF

ACC home teams: Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, UNC, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, Pitt

ACC away teams: Miami, Notre Dame, NC State, Duke, UVA, Louisville, Syracuse, Boston College

Then like 3 weeks in advance of the Saturday they kept open, they would announce pairings for games. The TV networks and leagues would work together to make them quality games based on how the teams were performing that season.

The Big 12 schools sitting it out would know in advance that it's their bye week and would schedule accordingly. The home/away would be known well in advance, just not the opponent.
 
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Nothing screams Southeastern Conference like the Pacific Northwest's Oregon

Los Angeles to Lincoln, NE: 1,600 miles
Los Angeles to Rutgers: 2,800 miles

Eugene to Columbia, MO: 1,900 miles (OU in Norman is basically the same)
Eugene to Florida: 2,950 miles

Different but not by all that much.
 

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Respectfully disagree. The fact that a school only puts 20,000 fans in their 65,000 seat stadium absolutely has an impact on their brand. If the brand was that great then people (especially in high population areas) would want to attend.

It’s an indicator of how many fans might buy a streaming service. No fan base that only gets 20k in the stands is going to buy a streaming service in the numbers ISU fans will.

Living in LA, USC clearly has some real fans on football Saturdays. Not like Iowa or Nebraska where it’s 80% of the state excited about a game, but if you’re near campus or the stadium you know there’s a big game going on with everybody in USC gear. With UCLA you really don’t notice, even if you’re in Westwood or Pasadena on game day you can’t even really tell.

I mean it.Is undeniable that the UCLA brand is recognized, it’s a famous school and their basketball history is famous. But they aren’t going to bring a ton of real dollars beyond being a partner with USC. They’re a better addition for the old TV model than the new one.
 

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Los Angeles to Lincoln, NE: 1,600 miles
Los Angeles to Rutgers: 2,800 miles

Eugene to Columbia, MO: 1,900 miles (OU in Norman is basically the same)
Eugene to Florida: 2,950 miles

Different but not by all that much.

There’s also the reality that even in the PAC Washington and Oregon schools always had to travel a long ways. Back in the days when other conferences were less spread out, they were already spread out.
 

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The 'play' at hand isn't just the conference realignment. It's the media stronghold. While schools are repositioning themselves for the better good, the potential newcomers in the media industry also have to be fretting a bit. Because as the P3 strengthen so does their value and instead of sticking their toe in the water, the new media companies will have to go all-in in contract negotiations. It's a poker game everywhere.
 
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That’s not really a kick to the balls. That’s just exactly where we were like 10 days ago and everyone was pretty much fine with that.
Well, “fine” in the mindset that we were “fine” being in the same class as a PAC that included USC and UCLA. I’m not sure many would be content with a Big 12 media deal similar to a PAC without those two. I mean, I wouldn’t be thrilled with that … and comparing that to a Big 16 or 18 including some very attractive PAC schools make that prospect even less appealing.

The PAC was already struggling even before USC and UCLA said they were leaving. Having that conference somehow, someway putting together a rights deal even in the ballpark of the Big 12 without those two would be hard to swallow. I find it hard to believe a PAC/ACC dance-off in Vegas would be enough to make that happen, but who knows what kind of $$$ Fox or other media outlets see in that.

But all I can do is talk about it, I have no influence over what athletic conferences or networks do or don’t do.
 
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Well, “fine” in the mindset that we were “fine” being in the same class as a PAC that included USC and UCLA. I’m not sure many would be content with a Big 12 media deal similar to a PAC without those two. I mean, I wouldn’t be thrilled with that … and comparing that to a Big 16 or 18 including some very attractive PAC schools make that prospect even less appealing.

But all I can do is talk about it, I have no influence over what athletic conferences do or don’t do.
Let the 6 in with no step up of payouts. Get or TV deals to align and then officially start then.
 
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