Refs were spotting the ball on the generous side for OSU about a half yard quite often both on offense, and then the opposite way on defense.
For Cowboy fans chirping about the spot on their final play
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No, because the official stands at the center and holds up the snap for an eternity at times, and for a split second other times. Needs to be a straight say 5 second pause no matter how long the defense takes. Happened twice to ISU yesterday and OSU delayed their sub, and then had them half jog very slowly on the field. Both times the 25 second clock would have run out before a snap was even allowed hence the time outs.
Suppose their lineman successfully pulled the ball carrier across the line to gain before he is tackled, and the ref throws a flag for the infraction. Would they spot the ball at the end of the run if we decline the penalty? I think the answer is yes. Consider a holding call on a long touch down run. TD stands if coach declines the penalty.
I think we would have to accept, setting up 4th and 7 for OSU.
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A reciever came sprinting in with about 7 seconds left on the play clock. When that happens I assume the defense is given a certain amount of time to substitute, otherwise offenses would just substitute last second so the d can't react. So really it was our fault for not having the right personnel on the field earlier and smart football on their part.
Both times happened on the same drive. ISU subbed and then made a second sub of one guy, which then allows OSU a chance to sub again. Kind of a stupid rule that OSU took full advantage of. In the end the lessen learned is if you are going to sub, get it right the first time.
We lost to them in 2017 when the officials gave a jump ball in the end zone to the defense on our last drive. It effectively ended our shot at a conference championship.
No time constraints. Late Cyclone substitutions allowed o$u to sub in a player at a very "deliberate" pace. The center judge(C on shirt back) holds the center until the substitution is completed.
A+ gamesmanship by the former Mullet.
I don’t know how upset you could really be about it. There wasn’t any angle that showed him with a first down.
The slow subbing they were doing was really smart, that’s just out coaching your opponent.
The slow subbing they were doing was really smart, that’s just out coaching your opponent.
Did it twice if I remember right. Until the rule changes, it was a smart move by Gundy.
I think we ran a receiver (Milton) off the field late in the play clock. Because of this, OSU is gets a chance to substitute. I think it was a good call by officials.
Watched it several times today, and what one announcer said you have to NOT look at the yellow line because it is not in the correct spot, you have to just look at the yard line. If you look at the yellow line it appears he may be close with the assisted pull, close, but can not see the ball, only area ball probably was in. But if you look at the actual yard line he was not past that line and that was the line to gain.
As the announcers have said many times the Yellow line is just a reference and not official and many times is not exact.... In this case it was about a half yard off, and even appears to not even be straight.
But even if they got the first there is no guarantee they would have gained any more or gotten a score. As we saw they were struggling with field goals. So those that are complaining need to realize it was not like having a score called back or even a goal line stand where they appeared to score. This was just the end of the game where they were behind not giving them more chances to possibly do something.
As the announcers have said many times the Yellow line is just a reference and not official and many times is not exact.... In this case it was about a half yard off, and even appears to not even be straight.
But even if they got the first there is no guarantee they would have gained any more or gotten a score. As we saw they were struggling with field goals. So those that are complaining need to realize it was not like having a score called back or even a goal line stand where they appeared to score. This was just the end of the game where they were behind not giving them more chances to possibly do something.
It does seem like a rule that needs some tweaking. I understand giving the defense a reasonable amount of time to match player personnel. If the offense has their 11 on the field and is set with time on the play clock, why couldn't the delay be an official's time out similar to an injury stoppage?
We just have to stop the late substitutions. It's really our fault. Yes, OSU slow played the substitution, which caused us to burn a time out, but OSU didn't do anything that most teams wouldn't do. If we don't make late substitutions, this won't happen.
The ref closest to the play, and with the best view, called the play short.
As Brock Huard said in the broadcast, it's amazing how accurate these officials are watching it live. I'll take it.
As Brock Huard said in the broadcast, it's amazing how accurate these officials are watching it live. I'll take it.
I agree. It was the correct call by the refs, but I think it was clever ploy by Gundy. Most of the game, they didn't swap personnel when we changed our offensive lineup. On this play, they countered Milton leaving the field with an attempt to get their slowest defensive tackle into the game. Who coincidentally, was in no particular hurry to reach his destination.
It seemed like they knew we made our change too late in the play clock, and took advantage of it. Smart play by them.
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It was the called the "Bush Push". Bush pushed Leinart into the end zone against Notre Dame, I think.
I brought this up in the game day thread. What happened on that 4th down play should have been called helping or assisting the runner, but it is never called any more.
Can anyone tell me why the defensive holding call flag was picked up in the third quarter? I watched the replay today and it seemed like a legit hold of Kolar. There had been two PI calls during that drive against OSU, so I guess the refs were reluctant to call a third penalty on the Cowboy defense in that one series?
Can anyone tell me why the defensive holding call flag was picked up in the third quarter? I watched the replay today and it seemed like a legit hold of Kolar. There had been two PI calls during that drive against OSU, so I guess the refs were reluctant to call a third penalty on the Cowboy defense in that one series?
It’s a dumb rule, when the ball is considered thrown out of the endzone it negates those. Not 100% firm on the exact rule but is around that area.
