On That Note: Long Tall Shorty

MeanDean

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Hey all,

Welcome On That Note, where we present a musically themed post every week. Your hosts alternate between @cyclones500, @CycloneRulzzz and me. This week is my turn.

Recently, I was thinking about the first Elvis Costello album, specifically the song Welcome to the Working Week. Great song from a great album. But to me, it always seemed too brief, like maybe with a bit more work, it could have been better or more complete.

That got me wondering what other songs seem too short or not as fully fleshed-out to their full potential. Then my mind wandered the opposite direction — when a song seems like it needlessly drags on past the point when any new musical or lyrical content is evident.

Thus, the title, Long Tall Shorty (Song from the Kinks first album), and this week's theme:

Songs that seem too short and songs that seem too long

Not to put too fine a point on it, I don't mean songs you dislike that just happen to be long; I'm looking for songs you believe pointlessly go on too long.

Another example of “too-long” might be a two-part song that you like one segment, but hate the other. For example, Jackson Browne's The Loadout/Stay; perhaps you like the Loadout part but hate the cover version of Stay.

Last week's OTN was the final in our annual Albums of the Past series covering 2001 and 2011.


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My first examples are both from Abbey Road...
Too short: Golden Slumbers

How can a person pick on Abbey Road, Side 2? Considered by some to be the greatest pop music to make up an album side! I do love how it goes and as is. That said I find the song Golden Slumbers to be cut above the rest of the song snippets pulled together to make the side. IMHO I think if McCartney had worked out another verse this could stand with some of his best works along side Let It Be, Yesterday and all the rest. I think it is that good - at least what there is of it. A full 2 and a half or 3-minute pop song version would have been spectacular.



Too long: I Want You (She's So Heavy)

Closing side 1 of Abbey Road is this Lennon penned song. It is just too repetitive and drags on with no variation for too long. It's almost 8 minutes! A nice fade out about 5:10 would have worked for me. Or even an abrupt clipped ending.

 

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Too Long:

From Crowded House's Woodface album. The final song is How Will You Go which is a nice thoughtful pop song. Then it fades (about 3:02) and a bit later (about 3:36) a cacophony of sound called I'm Still Here comes in for the rest of the track. When I added it to my playlist, I edited it to completely eliminate the I'm Still Here part, I hate it so much.

 
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Not doing this as a fan of the song, but I've heard it enough in passing to know that they just needed to cut out a bridge or something at some point.

 

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"Marquee Moon," Television

Running time is 10:40, and I have no qualms about that ... for a rock song of that duration, there isn't a lot of chaff.

However ... it may have been as effective if it ended at conclusion of the glorious instrumental sequence. But if you want to return to the main intro segment, the drum count-in is a dud … it takes too long to regain momentum, then the song is over less than 90 seconds later ... minor anti-climax, but worth noting.

Maybe re-enter immediately after the false ending with the “I remember when the darkness doubled” vocal.

(False ending/restart around 9:12).

 

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While this song isn't super short at right around 3 minutes I always want it to continue when it is over.

 
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Too Short:


Jimi could stretch this out to 10 minutes. 62 words in the lyrics.


This groove should go on forever.


How about 4 more stanza's David? A beautiful song.
 

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So the average length of a song is supposedly about 3:30 but one of the best ever is just over 10 minutes despite not being lengthy in lyrics

 

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Too Long:


The intro, the transitions,......c'mon boys,....edit it down to 10 minutes!


How about a 6 minute guitar solo?


I know,....but the outro could have been 25 seconds.
 
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"Birdhouse in Your Soul" - They Might Be Giants

TMBG has some built-in monotony to some of its songs, occasionally that's part of the charm … and the repetition within "Birdhouse" is part of the appeal ... I can't pinpoint a specific portion I'd cut, but even at only 3:18, it nearly runs out of gas.

 
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A few others that were too short for me....

War - "Low Rider"


Clarence Carter - "Slip Away"


The Dramatics -"What You See Is What You Get" I love this!!


Diana Ross and the Supremes -"Someday We'll Be Together"


Fleetwood Mac - "Dreams"
 
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