To be fair you are a **** most of the time.Damn, how quickly Cyclone fans turn into the dicks we hated other schools fans for doing not that long ago.
To be fair you are a **** most of the time.Damn, how quickly Cyclone fans turn into the dicks we hated other schools fans for doing not that long ago.
Jfc. Confirmation bias. Berkeley wins over Ames. Jfc.Ok, not going to debate, as criteria often will be subjective. But I do know two ISU grads who beat out Berkley grads for high paying research jobs, but I realize that is anecdotal. I do admit we have not advanced our academic status in a number of years, as we have policies that have discouraged international students, and some out of state students etc. and have had increasing reliability on research and tuition dollars which I hope will change soon but we still have chops in engineering, science, ag and vet med that I know of, maybe more.
Cal/Berkley is the pinnacle of the California BoR institutions. Most Importantly, the state of California SUPPORTS its state universities, unlike R Iowa, where less funding by the state is the "plan for excellence'.Depending upon academic area, think we still compare favorably with Cal, at least we used to be rated so. Both schools are AAU.
Then why is their tuition 50% higher than ours for instate students?Cal/Berkley is the pinnacle of the California BoR institutions. Most Importantly, the state of California SUPPORTS its state universities, unlike R Iowa, where less funding by the state is the "plan for excellence'.
We have derailed this thread, sorry but we do have good academics in areas, could be better certainly, and in some areas we excel. Berkley overall ranks better, and we should work to attempt to improve our standing, both politically and supporting our institution, the best we can!Then why is their tuition 50% higher than ours for instate students?
This is weird and you've brought it up multiple times now. No offense but nobody cares about you or a family member being recruited and it isn't a requirement to discuss Iowa State football recruitingIn this thread who has been recruited as a d1 athlete. Who has had kids go though the process. It will help me determine who to mock.
?????????????????Then why is their tuition 50% higher than ours for instate students?
Cool story bro. I am done w folks being wrong and attacking kids. Anything ****? Kid changed his mind get over it.This is weird and you've brought it up multiple times now. No offense but nobody cares about you or a family member being recruited and it isn't a requirement to discuss Iowa State football recruiting
I didn't say anything about itKid changed his mind get over it.
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Cost
UC Berkeley's innovative financial aid programs make a world class education a reality for thousands of students every year. Learn how.admissions.berkeley.edu
University of California, Los Angeles/Undergraduate tuition and fees
In-state tuition 13,240 USD, Out-of-state tuition 42,994 USD
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Tuition and Fees
Learn more about the costs associated with attending UCLA, including residency, tuition, fees and more.admission.ucla.edu
Undergraduate Students: Fall & Spring | Office of Student Financial Aid | Iowa State University
www.financialaid.iastate.edu
The "Iowa State" of the CBoR institutions, UC Davis,
Undergraduate Students: Fall & Spring | Office of Student Financial Aid | Iowa State University
www.financialaid.iastate.edu
I didn't know 50% of 31 is 18! When did arithmetic change?
I'm not picking a side, I'm just here for the math. Where are your 31 and 18 numbers coming from? Your first link says Cal instate tuition is $14,254. The Iowa State link says our instate tuition is $9,320. If you increase 9320 by 50% you get $13,980. I'd say calling 14,254 50% higher than 9,320 is close enough in this context.
I just mentioned tuition. I know I paid mid 9 for tuition last year for my kid at ISU. Berkeley was the 14 number that was quoted for 19-20, doubtful they went down last year. If California support of their universities is so much stronger than Iowa’s, why is their tuition for instate kids so much higher? That was the question I was posingLook at the rest of the fees. Their room and board is $7600 more than ISU. And they charge students $2800 for health insurance if a student doesn't have it or it's not adequate for their requirements. But he didn't count that.
Tuition, Room & Board, and books:
ISU $19510
UCLA $31425
That's just tuition. Having lived in L.A., Oakland, and SF for 30 years one can not ignore the cost of living (which can still be attributed to politics) to easily offset that small miscalculation (ie 8%). Bottom line, Cal is substantially more expensive. Let's also not ignore the economic strength of California. When you compare California's economic income to their contribution to their flagship universities, it's pitiful compared to Iowa's. So, I suggest you consider all perspectives when trying to slam Iowa.?????????????????
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Cost
UC Berkeley's innovative financial aid programs make a world class education a reality for thousands of students every year. Learn how.admissions.berkeley.edu
University of California, Los Angeles/Undergraduate tuition and fees
In-state tuition 13,240 USD, Out-of-state tuition 42,994 USD
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Tuition and Fees
Learn more about the costs associated with attending UCLA, including residency, tuition, fees and more.admission.ucla.edu
Undergraduate Students: Fall & Spring | Office of Student Financial Aid | Iowa State University
www.financialaid.iastate.edu
The "Iowa State" of the CBoR institutions, UC Davis,
Undergraduate Students: Fall & Spring | Office of Student Financial Aid | Iowa State University
www.financialaid.iastate.edu
I didn't know 50% of 31 is 18! When did arithmetic change?
Imagine being this upset about a 17/18 year old making a decision for their life....
Who is upset?Imagine being this upset about a 17/18 year old making a decision for their life....
There was like one snarky comment in this thread and people are acting like everyone is trashing on the kid, it’s weirdWho is upset?