Id be interested to see what percentages people are putting on TJ being successful vs Craig Smith being successful here. I’d say they are both 50/50.
Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?
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Id be interested to see what percentages people are putting on TJ being successful vs Craig Smith being successful here. I’d say they are both 50/50.
I’ve always loved PHX & Arizona, but Vegas seems like it’d be another option as kind of a “mini” Phoenix. Just spitballing if I were to ever move in the future
I don’t believe Fred wants to go back to the NBA, at least not as a coach. He wouldn’t have taken one of the worst jobs in CBB if he wanted to prove to NBA execs he can still coach. He’d have taken a more high profile job to help him look better.
Hasn’t everyone always said he picked nebraska because they were the only ones that would take him.
Yeah, if he wanted to stay in the NBA I think he would have taken an assistant job somewhere like a lot of guys do before popping back up as a HC for another team.
I'm not saying I agree or disagree that both are 50/50, but assuming that's the case then you go TJ because he is more likely to stick around if he does have success.
Yeah, cities like Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tucson, Albuquerque, El Paso... similar genre but at different sizes.
Most of them are pretty nice, though. ABQ is a personal favorite.
Look to his buyout in the contract. Almost 10 million after year 2 to go to a college job, only 2 million for an NBA job. You don't put that in your contract unless you want to jump to the NBA again. No coach has language like Fred's in the public contract database. You can check.
Have you looked at a lot of coaches buyouts for NBA jobs?Look to his buyout in the contract. Almost 10 million after year 2 to go to a college job, only 2 million for an NBA job. You don't put that in your contract unless you want to jump to the NBA again. Very few coaches (if any?) have similar provisions... and none are to the extreme of Fred's.
If I were TJ, I don't know if I would want to take the job right now because it is going to be starting over from scratch and he is already in the middle of a rebuild right now. Of course, if you consider it a dream job you take it no matter what.
No NBA team would touch him after his Bulls stint and going to Nebraska obviously was a terrible career move if his goal was to make it back to the NBA..Look to his buyout in the contract. Almost 10 million after year 2 to go to a college job, only 2 million for an NBA job. You don't put that in your contract unless you want to jump to the NBA again. Very few coaches (if any?) have similar provisions... and none are to the extreme of Fred's.
I tend to agree, but what makes no sense is why he would agree to such a high buyout. That’s the weirdest thing for me.
Scott Garrett’s gamble and the amazing rise of Cleveland State basketball under Dennis Gates – Terry Pluto
When Cleveland State hired Dennis Gates, most people wondered...WHO? Now, he's a hot coaching candidate at some major schools.
Also like that Gates is from Illinois. Another interesting note is that his brother is an assistant with Nebraska right now.
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From my post, you can see literally every buyout clause. Only three mention the NBA. 2 of which mention in the same phrase as the college move (so buyout is the same). Fred's is the only one with the different buyout.
It doesn't matter if an NBA team would touch him... it matters whether is SEEMS like an NBA team would touch him. You can bet it will still be used recruiting against us, and ultimately, if he's able to bring ISU back to relevance again, I bet an NBA team would take another flyer.
No you're not. No amount of posting on CF is going to prevent anything.
Smith looks like he's a heck of a coach -- just not sure how he would do attracting P6 talent.
TJ has proven he can recruit, but I am not sure how good of a developer or gameday coach he is.
Both are probably going to get a shot at some point, though.
Smith has been mentioned as a strong possibility for Arizona and Kansas State.
TJ has proven he can recruit, but I am not sure how good of a developer or gameday coach he is.
Both are probably going to get a shot at some point, though.
Smith has been mentioned as a strong possibility for Arizona and Kansas State.
100%. He will undoubtedly have my support but we’d better have some palpable success by year 3.
