Oklahoma State basketball hit w/ 1 year post-season ban

[randomfan44]

Quote from Dan Wolken, USA Today, 6/8/20: it (the FBI investigation) exposed college basketball as a laughably corrupt enterprise in which Hall of Fame coaches like Bill Self have to rely on relationships with bag men and agent wannabes to help get them players.

Exposed. Thats funny. I guess it did to those who only watch the sport for 4 weeks out of the year to see if they'll win their office bracket pool.

Collegiate sports has always had this. Frankly, it's better now than in the days where the money came directly from boosters, coaches and schools.

 

[Go2Guy]

It will be interesting to see how big the NCAA hammer is wielded in court. I'm cynical as Some of us here, and @randomfan44 feels the NCAA lawyers can't hold up to the Kansas "Dream Team" - whose motto, "Just because you did it, doesn't mean you're guilty".
I expect KU & DOOK to get off, but OK State, LSU get the slammer. Zona too will be targeted only because the evidence is too convincing.

 

[surly]

Ku will be the first blue blood to get Condi's fix. They'll get hammered. And all those who laughed at Rice and her commission will fade away like grandma's wallpaper.

 

[NodawayRiverClone]

Ku will be the first blue blood to get Condi's fix. They'll get hammered. And all those who laughed at Rice and her commission will fade away like grandma's wallpaper.

Nice reference to grandma's wallpaper, but that fading could take a while. Why not say - fade away like interest in surly's posts?

 

[surly]

In a referral to the IARP, COI chair designee Carol Cartwright, a former president at Bowling Green and Kent State, wrote that the case should be handled by the IARP because of the high stakes for the parties, including the NCAA.

"The case involves one of the premier men's basketball programs in the country, one of the winningest head coaches in Division I men's basketball history who is in the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame and alleged violations that are central to a federal lawsuit," Cartwright wrote on May 18. "Few cases have so much at stake. The stakes are particularly high for the Kansas men's basketball program. The Level I allegations include an illicit recruiting scheme, other recruiting violations, a head coach responsibility violation and lack of institutional control.

"The enforcement staff also identified a prevalence of aggravating factors for Kansas, Self and Townsend. If a hearing panel concludes that violations occurred, the penalties may be significant."

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...separate-basketball-football-infraction-cases

 

[Halincandenza]

Ku will be the first blue blood to get Condi's fix. They'll get hammered. And all those who laughed at Rice and her commission will fade away like grandma's wallpaper.

You seem like a real loser. No offense.

 

[surly]

You seem like a real loser. No offense.

Killing the messenger doesn't affect the depth of your long-overdue penalities.

 

[surly]

Here are options available to the IARP should they decide to take jurisdiction.

>> a maximum postseason ban of five years (it was four years);

>> financial penalties including “loss of all revenue sharing in the post-season competition” (there were fines previously, but no such all-encompassing risk);

>> potential lifetime show-cause finding against coaches (maximum had been 10 years);

>> and double the potential bans on official and unofficial recruiting visits, up to 100% (previous maximum loss of those visits: 50%).

 

[randomfan44]

It will be interesting to see how big the NCAA hammer is wielded in court. I'm cynical as Some of us here, and @randomfan44 feels the NCAA lawyers can't hold up to the Kansas "Dream Team" - whose motto, "Just because you did it, doesn't mean you're guilty".
I expect KU & DOOK to get off, but OK State, LSU get the slammer. Zona too will be targeted only because the evidence is too convincing.

I feel what? Did we have a conversation I dont remember?

I simply do not feel that the evidence that I have heard about supports their case enough to win in court.

 

[Go2Guy]

I feel what? Did we have a conversation I dont remember?

I simply do not feel that the evidence that I have heard about supports their case enough to win in court.

Right; that's what you spouted here. And I feel your dream team lawyers will get you off vs the limp-wristed NCAA lawyers.

 

[randomfan44]

Right; that's what you spouted here. And I feel your dream team lawyers will get you off vs the limp-wristed NCAA lawyers.

So don't project your opinion to be my opinion. I have no idea who any KU lawyers would be in this case and how competent they are.

 

[Prone2Clone]

So what are the penalties for Brad Underwood?

Having to live in Illinois.

 

[surly]

I simply do not feel that the evidence that I have heard about supports their case enough to win in court.

Self, according to The Kansas City Star, told Gassnola he was happy with Adidas before adding "just need to get a couple real guys."

"In my mind, it's KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad," Gassnola replied. "That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I'm right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

"That's how ur (sic) works. At UNC and Duke," Self replied.

Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky as well.

"I promise you I got this," Gassnola texted. "I have never let you down. Except (Deandre). Lol. We will get it right."

 

[Mr Janny]

Self, according to The Kansas City Star, told Gassnola he was happy with Adidas before adding "just need to get a couple real guys."

"In my mind, it's KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad," Gassnola replied. "That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I'm right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

"That's how ur (sic) works. At UNC and Duke," Self replied.

Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky as well.

"I promise you I got this," Gassnola texted. "I have never let you down. Except (Deandre). Lol. We will get it right."

This. KU fans can argue semantics, plausible deniability, or lie to themselves about what these texts were about, but anyone with an ounce of objectivity knows exactly what was going on here.

 

[randomfan44]

Self, according to The Kansas City Star, told Gassnola he was happy with Adidas before adding "just need to get a couple real guys."

"In my mind, it's KU, Bill Self. Everyone else fall into line. Too (expletive) bad," Gassnola replied. "That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I'm right. The more you have lottery picks and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

"That's how ur (sic) works. At UNC and Duke," Self replied.

Gassnola answered by saying Kentucky as well.

"I promise you I got this," Gassnola texted. "I have never let you down. Except (Deandre). Lol. We will get it right."

Thats innuendo, not evidence. What specific players and a tions with those players are included there? None.

 

[JM4CY]

Thats innuendo, not evidence. What specific players and a tions with those players are included there? None.

Dude, that comment is beyond burying your head in the sand.

 

[Halincandenza]

Killing the messenger doesn't affect the depth of your long-overdue penalities.

My penalties?? I am commenting on your weird posting habits of coming on here as a KSU fan posting about KU stuff just so you can get a KU poster to come on here and respond. That is ******* weird and speaks to you being a loser, no offense.

 

[randomfan44]

Dude, that comment is beyond burying your head in the sand.

No, it's the difference between speculating what is likely happening vs. providing evidence in a court case. We all know what is happening throughout the sport.

 

[randomfan44]

My penalties?? I am commenting on your weird posting habits of coming on here as a KSU fan posting about KU stuff just so you can get a KU poster to come on here and respond. That is ******* weird and speaks to you being a loser, no offense.

He gets more feedback here than anywhere else. KU boards have either banned him or ignore him and it's no fun to post stuff like that on a KSU board where everyone agrees with you.

 

[JM4CY]

No, it's the difference between speculating what is likely happening vs. providing evidence in a court case. We all know what is happening throughout the sport.

So because Bill was just doing what everyone does so we shouldn’t be busting his balls? Am I doing this right?