The Two Powerhouse Football Conferences

[CyTwins]

Iowa did have the tougher schedule according to the majority of BCS bowl metrics this year and in 2017. Neither team made the AP top 25 in 2017.

I agree Iowa had a tougher schedule that year. AP voters said Iowa State was the best team and I use AP votes as my go to metric for judging a team

 

[Legend Hawk]

Actually they'd have Iowa State at 8-5 and only a one point underdog at home vs Minnesota. Like I said Sagarin said Iowa was better than Iowa State in 2017 and they weren't. I do agree Iowa had the tougher schedule that year though but agree with the AP voters that Iowa State was the best team

What are you talking about? ISU loses to Iowa obviously, to USC on a neutral field, Lose to Minnesota at home, and lose to Wisconsin, Penn St. and Michigan.

 

[TheBear]

Here you go. Big 12 behind the SEC West but obviously ahead of everyone else

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2019/conference/

Why can’t we use Sagarin to show that isu wouldn’t win any more games playing Iowa’s schedule than they would playing their own? The Sagarin predictor proves this. It also proves that Iowa wins just as many games playing isu’s schedule as they do their own as well.

 

[CyTwins]

What are you talking about? ISU loses to Iowa obviously, to USC on a neutral field, Lose to Minnesota at home, and lose to Wisconsin, Penn St. and Michigan.

Pick em on a neutral field with USC and that was with Slovis

 

[Legend Hawk]

I agree Iowa had a tougher schedule that year. AP voters said Iowa State was the best team and I use AP votes as my go to metric for judging a team

LOL I see you edited, as you realize that the Sagarin predictor says ISU goes 7-6 vs Iowa's schedule and Iowa goes 10-3 vs ISU schedule.

According to your gospel, nothing changes if schedules were flipped. The SOS metric he puts out means that there is 0 difference between the #5 and #30 schedule then.

 

[TheBear]

I use Sagarin for SOS. It is by far the best metric for that out there

Because CyTwins says so.

 

[TheBear]

LOL I see you edited, as you realize that the Sagarin predictor says ISU goes 7-6 vs Iowa's schedule and Iowa goes 10-3 vs ISU schedule.

According to your gospel, nothing changes if schedules were flipped. The SOS metric he puts out means that there is 0 difference between the #5 and #30 schedule then.

Can’t wait to see how CyTwins spins this.

 

[CyTwins]

LOL I see you edited, as you realize that the Sagarin predictor says ISU goes 7-6 vs Iowa's schedule and Iowa goes 10-3 vs ISU schedule.

According to your gospel, nothing changes if schedules were flipped. The SOS metric he puts out means that there is 0 difference between the #5 and #30 schedule then.

Getting to rest your players vs the Big Ten West teams outside of Wisconsin and Minnesota is a huge advantage

 

[Legend Hawk]

Getting to rest your players vs the Big Ten West teams outside of Wisconsin and Minnesota is a huge advantage

Sagarin says ISU goes 7-6 vs Iowa's schedule and Iowa goes 10-3 vs ISU schedule. I know it is upsetting to you, but your boy Sagarin says it is the case.

 

[TheBear]

Getting to rest your players vs the Big Ten West teams outside of Wisconsin and Minnesota is a huge advantage

CyTwins has no answer. Interesting.

 

[CyTwins]

Sagarin says ISU goes 7-6 vs Iowa's schedule and Iowa goes 10-3 vs ISU schedule. I know it is upsetting to you, but your boy Sagarin says it is the case.

I use Sagarin for SOS but you knew that already

 

[Legend Hawk]

CyTwins has no answer. Interesting.

What is funny is the majority of the Big10 West played a much tougher schedule than the toughest Big12 conference schedule. Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern and Nebraska all had to play 4 top 15 ranked teams. That is crazy tough and something a Big12 team never has to face.

 

[Legend Hawk]

I use Sagarin for SOS but you knew that already

That is one way to wave the white flag.

 

[TheBear]

I use Sagarin for SOS but you knew that already

Called it, according to CyTwins we have to pick and choose what does and doesn’t count in Sagarin.

This isn’t cherry picking either because he says so.

 

[TRYHARDER]

F

Which way do you think the Clones go in the Power 4 scenario?

 

[TRYHARDER]

Actually they'd have Iowa State at 8-5 and only a one point underdog at home vs Minnesota. Like I said Sagarin said Iowa was better than Iowa State in 2017 and they weren't. I do agree Iowa had the tougher schedule that year though but agree with the AP voters that Iowa State was the best team

so Iowa had a much tougher schedule, won head to head, ended up with tha same record but you think the Clones were better? Stop it. You don't really believe that.

 

[Gonzo]

Yeah, and neither does getting into a peeing match about people you don't have any real association with (assuming you aren't related to him). Does it really matter? It would have been nice for Lazard to have been drafted and even better for him if he had went possibly second day, but in the truthfullness, it doesn't affect my life one bit.

Why I don't understand these numbnut trolls who come one here and argue things repeatedly with Twins daily, especially creating different user names (knowing the hoops I had to jump through to create this one -- which is my only one). I know I will occasionally join into the stupidity and try to catch myself after a few posts.

Does it really affect or matter to you what SE says about Epenesa's draft position? I don't care what you think of Lazard.

Spot on.

 

[CyTwins]

What is funny is the majority of the Big10 West played a much tougher schedule than the toughest Big12 conference schedule. Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern and Nebraska all had to play 4 top 15 ranked teams. That is crazy tough and something a Big12 team never has to face.

Link?

 

[CyTwins]

so Iowa had a much tougher schedule, won head to head, ended up with tha same record but you think the Clones were better? Stop it. You don't really believe that.

Sure do. Iowa State had better wins and beat a top 25 team in a bowl game in their own house. AP voters got it right

 

[TheBear]

Sure do. Iowa State had better wins and beat a top 25 team in a bowl game in their own house. AP voters got it right

Cherry picking CyTwins.