The Two Powerhouse Football Conferences

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  1. TRYHARDER

    TRYHARDER Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever considered that some years Ohio State gets to "duck" the Hawks?
     
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  2. TheBear

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    Yep 2002 and 2015 comes to mind. Good thing Iowa’s starting QB couldn’t play in the 2009 game in Columbus as well.

    Can’t wait to see how CyTwins will get pounded with his next troll job.
     
  3. TrianglePlace

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    Why would Iowa take a pay cut?
     
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  4. iahawks

    iahawks Well-Known Member

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    Also CyTwins: “I don't see any flaws in Sagarin's SOS no.“

    Can’t make this up.
     
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  5. CyclonesRock

    CyclonesRock Active Member

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    Because they factor the officiating bias negating win's. ie. Iowa holding, OU 2 pt conversion/no PI, Texas fumble/ not a fumble, K-State penalty/no penalty multiple times. The list is extensive.
     
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  6. CyclonesRock

    CyclonesRock Active Member

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    LOL, Never!
     
  7. HFCS

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    In basketball per team the big 12 is actually #1 with plenty of separation.
     
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  8. CyclonesRock

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    According to you Hoks, having such an "easy" road to the CFP in a such a "weak" conference like the Big XII?
     
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  9. TrianglePlace

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    I like the big pay day and not being in a conference that could be on the chopping block every time realignment is discussed.
     
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  10. Gonzo

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    You said they all ended up being single possession games. A 10-point lead and win isn't a single possession game. I'm not a math guy and even to me it's pretty simple.
     
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  11. TheBear

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    Makes sense for clone fans to go to the “Refs stole it from is” card.
     
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  12. TheBear

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    what clone fan meant was at one possession game at one point in the second half. Just like the Iowa/isu basketball game was a one possession game during the first 90 seconds of the game.
     
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  13. Lyddea

    Lyddea Well-Known Member

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    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but forget all the one-off proprietary (and flawed in their own way) metrics and just look at the results. There is one powerhouse conference, the SEC, and then there is a fight after that.

    It sucks, but that's reality. "Two powerhouse conferences" is asinine. One conference has separated itself at the top, and (I would argue) one at the bottom (the ACC, Clemson is an amazing program of course). But there is no comparative results-based data that suggests that the Big 12 is qualitatively better than the Big 10 or Pac 12. Those three conferences are all fighting it out in the middle.
     
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  14. CyTwins

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    #174 CyTwins, May 30, 2020
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    Pac 12 and the Big Ten are fighting for third and it's not really even debatable
     
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  15. TheBear

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    Big 12 is so mighty that they are 2-12 the last two years in Bowl games.
     
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  16. Lyddea

    Lyddea Well-Known Member

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    What result can you support that with?

    No convoluted and incomprehensible metric. A simple result. Show me at least one. I've showed what felt like the whole lot, but I'm sure it's not. What am I missing?

    Edit: To be clear, "support that" refers to the idea that the Big12 is on the same level as the SEC and qualitatively ahead of the Pac 12 and ACC.
     
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  17. SEIOWA CLONE

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    I guess I was just like all the EIU fans that said all fall, winter and spring, right up till the 2nd round of the draft that there was no way Espinoza was not going to be drafted in the top half of the draft.
     
  18. Gonzo

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    Yeah, the ones you think are idiots. Think about that.

    And he was taken in the top half of the draft. By, like, a lot.
     
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  19. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

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    Here you go. Big 12 behind the SEC West but obviously ahead of everyone else

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2019/conference/
     
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  20. SEIOWA CLONE

    SEIOWA CLONE Well-Known Member

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    Not in the top half of the first round or any part of the first round, you damn well know what I was talking about. Quit playing, you are better than that.
     
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