Isn't that literally the point of flattening the curve?
I've seen explanations say one meaning is the same number of sick folk, but over a much longer time horizon.
Isn't that literally the point of flattening the curve?
Yeah that makes sense actually. I won't read into those as much then.From the reports that I read. They track cell phones for how well they are following shelter in place. Might explain why rural areas are worse. They have to travel 10-20 miles to get groceries. A lot of animal agriculture in Iowa. Feed trucks and delivery trucks racking up miles. Getting ready for planting puts miles on. It’s a very prejudiced set of data favoring states with larger towns.
Right -- so the goal still is to stretch the illnesses out over time to get them better care/not overwhelm the system.I've seen explanations say one meaning is the same number of sick folk, but over a much longer time horizon.
As someone pointed out, our grade might not be as good due to our farming, but I mean yeah you should probably worry about grades. They're based on data..Seriously? You’re worried about ******* grades?
Right -- so the goal still is to stretch the illnesses out over time to get them better care/not overwhelm the system.
In theory you could reduce the total number of infections this way if a cure or vaccine or such were to come along during this time, but that seems very unlikely to apply here.
My girlfriend (essentially my wife) has to go to her office 2 to 3 times a week for what I am assuming would be deemed non-essential. She is perfectly capable from doing her job at home, but her boss wants the office staffed for "business continuity", which is a bunch of bs. I get it. I'm not saying I would be opposed to the governor doing more, I'm just saying from a big picture perspective I do think we have done a lot to lower the curve already.From what I've been reading on here, most of the people on here that don't want more extreme measures taken are those already working from home and don't have that added factor of risk. Those who are arguing for more extreme measures seem to be currently more at risk because they have to continue to work at a non-essential business.
My girlfriend (essentially my wife) has to go to her office 2 to 3 times a week for what I am assuming would be deemed non-essential. She is perfectly capable from doing her job at home, but her boss wants the office staffed for "business continuity", which is a bunch of bs. I get it. I'm not saying I would be opposed to the governor doing more, I'm just saying from a big picture perspective I do think we have done a lot to lower the curve already.
My girlfriend (essentially my wife) has to go to her office 2 to 3 times a week for what I am assuming would be deemed non-essential...
Yeah that's definitely true.My girlfriend (essentially my wife) has to go to her office 2 to 3 times a week for what I am assuming would be deemed non-essential. She is perfectly capable from doing her job at home, but her boss wants the office staffed for "business continuity", which is a bunch of bs. I get it. I'm not saying I would be opposed to the governor doing more, I'm just saying from a big picture perspective I do think we have done a lot to lower the curve already.
Yeah. Which is exactly what we’ve been doing.Isn't that literally the point of flattening the curve?
There's certainly a delicate balance involved and many [rapidly-] changing variables. As it pertains to supplies, I would think the long game would still be better overall -- more time to produce and identify future needs.So many variables in place. Do you get less deaths since you take pressure off the hospitals? Could be. Do you have more deaths because you stretch out how long this May float around the communities and possibly have it keep reigniting? Could be. You really never know if your plan was the right or wrong one until well after the dust settles. I’m not for just opening everything back up. Need to allow hospitals to have the ability to deal with it.
A positive about getting it later is you get a shot to see what has worked for others and have a little knowledge on it. A negative is that other states may suck up all the ventilators and PPEs and you don’t have the supplies when you need them.
So what's the fallacy, again? We're flattening the curve, to hopefully save lives and/or provide better care, which you also said is a fallacy... Did I miss something here?Yeah. Which is exactly what we’ve been doing.
Link to the criteria for these grades?As someone pointed out, our grade might not be as good due to our farming, but I mean yeah you should probably worry about grades. They're based on data..
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-scores-how-well-states-are-social-distancing.htmlLink to the criteria for these grades?
Took the kids to a local hiking spot that usually has no one at it. About 10 minutes down the trail a group of 8 or so teenagers come running down the path panting playing tag. One fat girl stops 2 feet from us and starts to cough like she's out of breath.
I couldn't control myself and shouted "you have got it be ******* kidding me right now. MOVE!"
We went straight to the car and drove home.
You’re the one guaranteeing SIP would save lives compared to what we’re doing. Show me the supporting data.
Trying the curbside pickup from Hyvee Friday to avoid idiots like that. Never done it beforeHad to go to the grocery store tonight; everyone was doing a solid job of gapping each other and not meeting each other in aisles.......except one guy. He would stand and hover by you and then stood right in front of the produce yacking on his phone. Made sure to get wrapped vegetables when he finally moved over. There was kind of a process in the store too, a flow that everybody followed but this dude. He kept zig zagging back and forth.
Also, you can now stop hoarding the TP, yeast, flour, eggs, and other basic essentials. It’s getting old.
Had to go to the grocery store tonight; everyone was doing a solid job of gapping each other and not meeting each other in aisles.......except one guy. He would stand and hover by you and then stood right in front of the produce yacking on his phone. Made sure to get wrapped vegetables when he finally moved over. There was kind of a process in the store too, a flow that everybody followed but this dude. He kept zig zagging back and forth.
Also, you can now stop hoarding the TP, yeast, flour, eggs, and other basic essentials. It’s getting old.