Graham Couch: Iowa Basketball is a mid-major roster
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No way per the year Monte said what he did...everyone knows NIT 2nd round is a bigger sports story than a 2nd round NCAA tourney.
This conversation is eerily similar to the Hawk/Cyclone NFL talk.
Have the cyclones underperformed with all that NBA talent?
It is.
As far as underperforming, in hindsight it’s easy to say that from the surface. Although If you dig deeper, I tend to think it was more related to those teams essentially having zero depth. Which was a cause of the bad defense.
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This conversation is eerily similar to the Hawk/Cyclone NFL talk.
Have the cyclones underperformed with all that NBA talent?
Good question but issues with most of the good ISU teams has been depth and a dominant 5...lack of luck in some regards too.
Also it's not like they were lottery picks or something.
I was kind of being facetious with the "underperforming" comment because it's used quite a bit in regards to Iowa football and NFL talent. For Iowa football I think it comes down to quality depth as well and it being a "developmental" program. The upper echelon teams just have more quality depth and talent.....4 guys leaving early this year and 2 last hurts Iowa much more than a team like Ohio State. Don't have the 4 and 5 stars waiting in the wings.
Hey, Iowa made it to the NIT Sweet 16 while ISU only made it to the round of 32 when Monte made his comments.
Remember when YeahBuddy was excited we got Shayok?
Good thing Monte knew how each team’s season would play out when he made the comment in December. Derp.
It's been soooooooo much better with you gone, even the other Iowa posters know that.
Everyone in the world new that December ISU was going to be the better team. ISU was a top 25 team that whole year and Iowa was an NIT team
This got me thinking. When was the last time Iowa ended up being the best team in the state in basketball when the season was over?
I think another factor that plays in to the underperforming angle is that like Iowa football, ISU, especially under Fred, played a system that mirrors what they do in the pros. Iowa football players are developed in a system that makes them very NFL ready, you can say the same for the Hoiberg era guys and the NBA. It's understated just how much different the NFL is from NCAAF, same for NBA /NCAAB. In some cases, that development makes them a better fit for the next level than the college game.
Kenpom says 2012-2013, which is conincidentally the last time Iowa State had a better football team than Iowa.
ISU won a game in the tourney that year and Iowa didn't even make the tourney...lol
I'll ask again, when was the last time Iowa ended up having a better season than ISU in basketball?
Don't you know by now that you have to use CyTwins' criteria.
