OFF THE RECORD: Royce White

[isubett]

Please go back and list any made up words. I’m response to your question, it’s already been communicated a number of times that the “ask” was for a formal policy. That request was denied, even though a number of doctors from within the league agreed it was necessary. The NBPA director has now gone on the record saying their “negligence” is putting the lack of attention to this matter mildly. Is that not specific enough? Oh... btw this is Royce White.

"Formal Policy" is not specific. What would the policy say? What would be the responsibility of the NBA. What would be the responsibility of the NBA players? What would be the responsibility of the Player's Union? It seems to me that getting focused help for your situation by mental help professionals would be more productive than a "formal policy". And as someone who signed for millions of dollars, you could have had those professionals working for you.

 

[XxroycewhitexX]

So if you chose to leave, why do you feel you were deserving of an immediate eligibility waiver? Hundreds of kids choose to transfer schools every year and they don’t apply for, or feel entitled to, immediately eligibility waivers.

Ahhh... I CHOSE to leave after a recommendation was made by a physician and psychiatrist to distance myself from a police department that had shown malicious intent. It was a move to help manage my level of anxiety and stress, that had become measurably increased by the entire investigation process and fallout. Since it’s clear you lack a committment to detail... the FIRST provision under the transfer eligibility guidelines, grants potential waiver for legitimate health issues. Mental health being one of them. Which is why our waiver at Iowa State included letters from both of my doctors. However a NCAA case officer at that time decided mental health wasn’t a valid consideration, without any consultation of medical professionals. Eerily similar to my experience with the NBA. Any more questions?

 

[XxroycewhitexX]

Oh Royce, he is making mountains out of mole hills. I just don't think we would agree on much of anything.

When people say you are too smart for your own good they are talking about this idea. It is hard to stay focused on the topic that you are hired to do. I've done some of the same things and tend to do things the hardest way possible.

The biggest problem is that he sees himself as a victim and that is antithetical to success.

Man that alcohol discussion... Really Royce, you would like to dictate how many beers one can consume? How many one could consume with your children around? I think my diagnosis is that his mental health problems can be boiled down to his socialist brainwashing. Royce, if you happen to read this you are not a victim but a result of the choices made in your life. Take some responsibility. I'm out.

Oh my, there so much wrong with this response... where do I being? “Socialist Brainwashing” I’ve ctually highlighted several times that the mental health conversation has to be both collective and individual. I haven’t casted any aspersions about my status as a victim and I’m a very public critic of victimhood. I would actually argue that the NBA and many of the INDIVIDUALS within are victims of their own dissonance.

“Your diagnosis” doesnt count, the simple fact that you would so causally pronounce “your diagnosis” is telling of the delusional state of the mental health conversation that I was explaining. Then you condescend the self-evident toxicity of adults drinking alcohol in front of children. That’s certainly a way to immediately castrate the validity of your ethical disposition. To top it all off, you colloquially mention individual responsibility?! As a blanket remedy to complex systemic societal problems. Not that individual responsibility isn’t key or even central to potential solutions... but you seemed to have quickly divorced the NBA and all of it’s INDIVIDUAL perrineial powers from their personal responsiblity. Maybe it’s because you like just like watch or maybe it’s because you feel unempowered to challenge their evading of responsibility. I certainly don’t feel that lack of empowerment, which is why in my challenging the league, they have involuntarily move the locale of the conversation. I digress...

 

[CloneGuy8]

Haven't had a chance to listen yet, but I look forward to it. As someone who struggles with anxiety and depression, I appreciate the awareness he's brought to the issue.

 

[Al_4_State]

Thank you, I appreciate your support. One of the earlier comments posited “socialist brainwashing” as a prognosis of my mental health issues... what he seems to overlook is how resent has historically been the catalyst of tyrannical socialist regimes. One of it’s consistent characteristics takes shape in the form of hatred of the competent from the incompetent. Intellectual shaming is definitely a red herring of a decadent society and of bankruptcy of philosophical currency.

The guy who accused you of being brainwashed by socialists thinks children should be able to marry adults, so take it with an 18 wheeler full of salt.

 

[Cyched]

Ahhh... so you did understand the words that were coming out of my mouth?! The dialetical is a fundamental process of profound understanding.

It's one thing to have an extensive vocabulary. It's another thing to be able to put things into layman's terms, especially if you want to convey your message to a wider audience.

 

[CycloneErik]

Why didn't CW warn @XxroycewhitexX about Argent?
We get a good Cyclone here and he's stuck running into that guy right away. Dang.

 

[peteypie]

Royce, thank you for your time at ISU. You were the biggest part of us turning the program around sans Fred.

Ignore the few ignorant posters here, and go win the Hilton legends a title!

 

[madguy30]

The guy who accused you of being brainwashed by socialists thinks children should be able to marry adults, so take it with an 18 wheeler full of salt.

Yeah it's like someone studied past situations so people are better informed. Socialist bastards.

 

[SoapyCy]

If I was asked to put an all time Cyclones team together Royce White would be on it. We can debate religion, politics, money, and everything else under the sun, but the reason this website exists is to celebrate and support athletes like Royce White.

 

[XxroycewhitexX]

The guy who accused you of being brainwashed by socialists thinks children should be able to marry adults, so take it with an 18 wheeler full of salt.

Whoa! Very telling indeed... thanks for that bit of information, it helps me to orient myself within this new community of cyclone fanatic.

 

[XxroycewhitexX]

It's one thing to have an extensive vocabulary. It's another thing to be able to put things into layman's terms, especially if you want to convey your message to a wider audience.

I don’t want to convey my message to a “wider audience” I want to convey an accurate message for the sake of historicity. I’m not so sure that the complexity of the psychological domain can or should be put in layman’s terms... I think that might actually part of the issue.

 

[CyArob]

It's one thing to have an extensive vocabulary. It's another thing to be able to put things into layman's terms, especially if you want to convey your message to a wider audience.

Layman's terms are for people too lazy to do their own research on a topic

 

[cyfanatic13]

Hey Royce, big fan. Thanks for putting ISU back on the map in college basketball. What was your favorite moment in your year at ISU? Sorry if this isn't the place but I figured you could take a break from answering dumb people

 

[Cyched]

Layman's terms are for people too lazy to do their own research on a topic

K.

 

[SwirlyBird]

K.

I've got the best words.

 

[Cyched]

I've got the best words.

Believe me.

 

[XxroycewhitexX]

Hey Royce, big fan. Thanks for putting ISU back on the map in college basketball. What was your favorite moment in your year at ISU? Sorry if this isn't the place but I figured you could take a break from answering dumb people

Had to be either beating KU at home or seeing Scotty off on senior night with a huge win over Baylor. On both occasions cyclone alley stormed the court... always epic. Emotion is palpable!

 

[CyTwins]

If “formal policy” isn’t detailed enough for you without going into what would possibky be 10,000 words of legislation... them it seems shrinkingly like a sleight of hand on your part to divert the conversation into a cheap symantecal debate. Let’s just start with an admission that a “formal policy” is needed and let the medical experts hash out what the details are going to look like. BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BEST SUITED TO.

You should have won Big 12 POY over Robinson for what it's worth

 

[XxroycewhitexX]

"Formal Policy" is not specific. What would the policy say? What would be the responsibility of the NBA. What would be the responsibility of the NBA players? What would be the responsibility of the Player's Union? It seems to me that getting focused help for your situation by mental help professionals would be more productive than a "formal policy". And as someone who signed for millions of dollars, you could have had those professionals working for you.

If “formal policy” isn’t detailed enough for you without going into what would possibly be 10,000 words of legislation... then it seems strinkingly like a sleight of hand on your part to divert the conversation into a cheap symantecal debate. Let’s just start with an admission that a “formal policy” is needed and then let the medical experts hash out what the details are going to look like. BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BEST SUITED TO...